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Re: Liz Truss the new UK Prime Minister
« Reply #40 - on: 30.09.2022 at 22:30 [UT+1] »
 
Ethereal wrote,"
Events are powerfully operative, yes.  But I don't think the astrology is overtaken"
 
Yes, of course. My comment was mainly embarrassment because otherwise there was no astrological content to my post! Sorry admins.
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« Reply #41 - on: 01.10.2022 at 01:14 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Tuesday on 30.09.2022 at 14:19 [UT+1]:


Cutting benefits was a comment from BoE. Its just a comment that got published. Lose talk.

But it should be done, just managed well to get people back to work. Currently its not possible when zero hour contracts and part time work is all that available for majority. The economy is in dire straights.


No it was not a comment or lose talk from or about the Bank of England, it was actual words that came out of kwasi kwartengs mouth in the House of Commons last Friday. All on record.References available if required.
Glad we got that sorted.
 
And for your info 70% of benefit claimants are in work.
He is wanting those on part time to work more or lose any top up benefits they have. Benefits which enable them to survive.  
And there’s worse to come.
Yes you are right the economy is in dire straights but it’s all of their own making. Ie making the rich richer and the poor poorer.  
Anyway I have no astrology but just had to say my piece  
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« Reply #42 - on: 01.10.2022 at 02:39 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from etherea on 30.09.2022 at 19:59 [UT+1]:
Quote from Arihant on 30.09.2022 at 17:37 [UT+1]:
Under what Astrological signature,does Inflation rises rapidly?

Jupiter/neptune conjunction in Pisces, certainly, in this case.

Great Reminding of the point of Inflatory FmI ,Etherea!
Thank you. I totally missed that.
US policies are  exporting Inflation these days and UK and Europe economy are all set to  going into recession , the need of hour is to tackle economy,boost manufacturing and the investments. Fa ,when becomes direct would boost enterprise ( of course individual enterprise would flourish ) but with I entry into a, it would be new fashion. Starts -uo would again become fashionable.....
 
G direct motion in coming days should also not contract the economy any longer..( J is the main culprit and Oo is shaking the financial markets presently)  
Astrologers who are well versed in predicting  economic trends/ and forecast financial remedies, financial astrology are to come out more in the open and delienate.
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« Reply #43 - on: 01.10.2022 at 09:04 [UT+1] »
 
UK general elections to take place no later than 1 Jan 2025. There cannot be a leadership contest within Tory party for one year. So let us just zoom to 1 Oct 2023 to see transit in LT's chart - the best we can as we have no tob.
I find trOmF; AmJg; JoJ but DmC.
Clear signs of heavy power struggles and a change in luck despite charm offensive.
Comments welcome, with other chart if needed showing situation after one year tenure.
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« Reply #44 - on: 01.10.2022 at 10:09 [UT+1] »
 
Sinbad I cannot agree that Truss will be experiencing the J A That soon.  It’s not even in k so that’s just not possible for those effects to be set up to be triggered.  Even in own sign 6 degrees is way out of target.  
 
 Btw she was born in 1975….
 
I want to wait till the worst of her eclipse sq A and also conj O, sq GC is over….say end March 23.  Given who she is taking on to reform….the benefit claimants …. Even though it’s absolutely necessary to shake that tree down…. Uproot the damn thing if she can!….She may not survive.  I hope she does it will free UK from an enormous burden being made worse by 1.2 billion per year with immigrants living in hotels.  But that might may be too weighty.  
 
She has good hold on stress management and with her fixed nature it’s wilful and downright obstinate enough with that Eb, to never surrender!  
 
Good luck to her though.  It will save the UK if she can manage it.
 
I am rooting for her for taking it on,  but I can see the obstacles are so entrenched it may be impossible.  
 
Either way, we will see the magnitude of opposition.  As I say…more power to her for attempting.
 
Meanwhile the way back to EU is being opened and that’s a jolly good thing for the economy given the huge exports UK used to send across.
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« Reply #45 - on: 01.10.2022 at 10:16 [UT+1] »
 
Sorry about wrong dob. Here is a corrected chart. I see still  Jm her A. Astro comments welcome. Shame we do not have a tob.
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« Reply #46 - on: 01.10.2022 at 10:34 [UT+1] »
 
I wish she did have J opp A.  It would add weight to her fight.  But I just don’t think so either way, even if it was active now.
 
it’s not a personal battle.  It’s a battle for the financial well being of a country.  She is managing the fight with many on her side against the might of self serving draining financials opposites.  
 
UK without this battle won to remove the drain to finances and rebuild its economy, will sink.
 
This battle to reshape the finances of UK for benefit of its people cannot be regarded personally.  She doesn’t benefit from it either way.  In fact she would benefit more to let the country sink.  
 
Could be the fight is over by then and the AJ  is a personal restart in life in new direction.  
 
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« Reply #47 - on: 01.10.2022 at 11:05 [UT+1] »
 
Iris this is obviously not UK relevant but you should know that the changes now taking place in the Greek economy with multinationals investing billions will offer protection and smooth the way with the changes needed to proportional representation in government.  
 
The presence of Us multinationals investments of billions, the presence of US military bases, the incoming German multinationals bringing billions of manufacturing plants and the wealth of tourism and gas…all make it a strategic protective presence offering continuity.  
 
I may be wrong, not knowing which chart to use and not studying the past of a Greece to verify the chart…but I see the current swell taking it into the future changed, under foreign strong influence to maintain needed normalcy….and intact.  
 
Who governs won’t matter.  
 
Greece has been there for millennia. It  isn’t going anywhere.  
 
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« Reply #48 - on: 01.10.2022 at 11:12 [UT+1] »
 
It's an awful reminder that in Oct 23, J will still be hovering round the last degrees of j. Don't we need a break from the smashing.
Tr and natal F interesting in this chart. TrF on NN I wonder about and the role of E. Well if she goes down, she'll go down with a fight.
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« Reply #49 - on: 01.10.2022 at 12:29 [UT+1] »
 
Thank you Tuesday for the reassurance! The present government says exactly the same. I can pm you Greece's natal data, if you wish.  Wink Smiley
 
By the way, below is posted the synastry between the UK and Liz Truss. I think a synastry reveals a lot in such cases. It is interesting to see that UK's B, the people p Liz's A. In general, I do not consider it a bad synastry, but what is your view? The most difficult I can see is Liz's G in UK's 4th n UK's D and according to my view, she needs to bring some structure to UK's finances and apply some cut-backs to over-spending, which is not bad, is it?  
Is it a coincidence that tJ will soon m that UK's D? There is no coincidence in Astrology, my teacher told me, when I was a beginner!  Some regeneration/transformation is due and every little past secret dealings may come into light. It may not be very pleasant, but it has to be done and Liz is the chosen to do this!  
 
Having seen the synastry, it appears to me that she may be a good PM in the end and that the people will finally like her. Maybe she has the guts-Cardinal T-Square- to deal with all the mess and the sensitivity Bl to be sympathetic to the unpriviledged.  
 
What do you think?  
 
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« Reply #50 - on: 01.10.2022 at 12:37 [UT+1] »
 
Here is Jessica Adams' view on Liz Truss  
 
https://www.jessicaadams.com/2022/09/05/blog/the-liz-truss-astrology-chart/
 
'Stormy weathers'
Apologies if this has already been posted in the past.
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« Reply #51 - on: 01.10.2022 at 12:53 [UT+1] »
 
Thanks, Sinbad, I like the naturally green and media-friendly part. It is good to have a green leader, I hope she does not backflip on that, if she realizes it costs money and the backflip is more convenient.
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« Reply #52 - on: 01.10.2022 at 14:04 [UT+1] »
 
Of course on Jan 1 2025 (the latest date for election), J will be 1 deg in k.. a new era.  
 
Just as a point of comparison,  Starmer's chart with transits on 1 1 25 sports Js J.
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« Reply #53 - on: 02.10.2022 at 01:40 [UT+1] »
 
As PM Truss's polls slide downwards.
"King Charles abandons plans to attend Cop27 ‘following Liz Truss’s advice’
Prime minister reportedly raised objections to him going during personal audience at Buckingham Palace"
 
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/01/king-charles-abandons-plans-to-a ttend-cop27-following-liz-trusss-advice
This a pity.  
COP 27 will take place from 6-18 November 2022 the LE is n KC's A/C
There's always been a criticism that Charles may interfere Govt matters more once the Queen departs.
Is the PM concerned the Royal greenies will take the spotlight off her at her first big event? Or is she making a point that she the boss?
I feel this is a real pity. The recently promoted Royal Father and son have so much to offer to the discussion.
Both KC and PW are no 11s so they are people on a mission.  
 
The newly anointed leaders do have a few ps and qs in synastry.
They can work together if they stay in their own lanes.
 
LT F p KC E
Your relationship is definitely warm and romantic and very fulfilling for both of you.
 
Her D m his G
Both persons will need to be aware of a tendency to be too insistent on attention from one another, and well as of the tendency to restrict each other's sense of freedom.
 
Her K m his N
This pair has an instinctive attraction to each other and understands each others' destiny and purpose. Both feel an instant connection to the other.
 
Her A m his Asc
The Sun person will begin to influence and interact positively with the Asc person.  
 
Her E o his J exact in his H1
suggests a huge, huge tension in the relationship. You unconsciously provoke each other, and if you live the unevolved manifestation of these planets, you can turn your lives into chaos. The actions of the Mars person can trigger the unconscious of the Pluto person.
 
Her O n his B
Suggests a huge, huge tension in the relationship, they provoke each other. The actions of the Mars person can trigger the unconscious of the Pluto person.
 
KC's chart chart with Truss DOB as transits
 
 
 
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« Reply #54 - on: 03.10.2022 at 08:55 [UT+1] »
 
"Somethin's gotta give" = one of the theme tunes of Pluto in opposition to natal Saturn,Mercury and Sun  (not to mention the cardinal square that transiting Pluto is forming between natal Jupiter and natal Uranus) - and poof..!!! the reduction in the 45p tax rate for the wealthy, has gone.
 
Truss will follow, probably.  
 
She has utterly ruined her copy-book, has been seen to be stubborn, making things worse at a time of one of the most serious crises this country has faced within living memory.
 
To be a politician requires "reading the room" to the Nth degree.   Clearly, this has not been happening.  
 
Her "feeling planets", namely, Moon, Venus, Neptune, are all in a t-square (although degree of Moon is not known, it will still fall into that category), and are all in mutable.  I don't think she processes her own feelings well, and this is playing out on the larger screen we call "life".  
 
I wonder if she will soon be earning her PM's pension, after one of the shortest stints of those who have held the position.  
 
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« Reply #55 - on: 03.10.2022 at 13:13 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Greg Young on 28.09.2022 at 15:41 [UT+1]:
I wonder if we'll see a shrieking halt as the Truss kitten heels hit the brakes over the weekend. Venus's move into g may feel the need to calm the waters a little whilst trimming the sails rather than deserting the ship entirely.The D conjunct to the previous NM position at 3g on October 1 is cautiously penciled in, whilst under the influence of lunar fluctuations. Then there's its sesquisquare to Uranus to consider and needless to add...retrograde C. A weekend trying to both weather the storm and becalm frayed nerves perhaps.

 
Not quite the weekend unless you've a hangover but a stunning U-turn it is. And a welcome one as sticking to it was political suicide.
 
Still a long way to crawl back.
 
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New Moon - Libra 3: The dawn of a new day, everything changed

 
..........when added to C R it was pretty obvious what was coming.
 
 
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« Reply #56 - on: 04.10.2022 at 16:35 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Greg Young on 03.10.2022 at 13:13 [UT+1]:


Not quite the weekend unless you've a hangover but a stunning U-turn it is. And a welcome one as sticking to it was political suicide.

Still a long way to crawl back.

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New Moon - Libra 3: The dawn of a new day, everything changed


..........when added to C R it was pretty obvious what was coming.

Well, now the little WEF fairy is talking about how Britain's economy needs a "reset".  
 
Iris' chart in post 49, of synastry between Truss and 1066 shows Moon conjunct Pluto, quincunx Sun (12h/4h of 1066).   I am not convinced that she won't just rile people up, and she will try to just brazen it out with bossiness.  1066 natal Moon quincunx her natal Uranus indicates people will really not follow her at all.
 
She isn't leadership material, clearly.  She appears unable to attract people's sympatico side, and I doubt the late-in-the-day U-turn will patch over the gaping holes in people's trust that she has created.
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« Reply #57 - on: 04.10.2022 at 19:15 [UT+1] »
 
Ethera, I agree with you about Truss, and the lack of emotion. She had made UK problems much worse. She is almost a parody of all the problems with right wing parties in Britain.  
 
Truss' puppet-masters, Tufton Street, are major players in this though - the IEA, the 'Taxpayers' Alliance' etc. Does anyone have dates or charts for these shady organizations.....?
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« Reply #58 - on: 04.10.2022 at 19:46 [UT+1] »
 
Tory party born 10 May 1912 has transiting Uranus conjunct it’s Sun
Talk about chaos and splits
Will they breakdown!?
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« Reply #59 - on: 06.10.2022 at 23:06 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from etherea on 03.10.2022 at 08:55 [UT+1]:


Her "feeling planets", namely, Moon, Venus, Neptune, are all in a t-square (although degree of Moon is not known, it will still fall into that category), and are all in mutable. I don't think she processes her own feelings well, and this is playing out on the larger screen we call "life".


 
Politics is often a case of ambition outrunning ability but Truss comes across as emotionally tone deaf and non empathetic which hints at some sort of Asperger’s type characteristics. And unlike most politicians she does not seem to be able to fake it. I thought she might be “away with the faeries” and recent events rather confirm that fact. Her Mutable T Square does not fit easily with her Cardinal T Square which suggests she may not integrate her thoughts and feelings very well.
 
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