Nation: USA No.4

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Nation: USA No.4 Gender: N/A
Armistead July 2 chart
born on 2 July 1776 at 12:00 (= 12:00 noon )
Place Philadelphia PA, USA, 39n57, 75w09
Timezone EST h5w (is standard time)
Data source
Timed, original source unknown
Rodden Rating C
Collector: Rodden
Astrology data s_su.18.gif s_cancol.18.gif 11°13' s_mo.18.gif s_capcol.18.gif 25°15 Asc.s_libcol.18.gif 08°54'


Date of the Declaration of Independence, considered by some astrologers as the chart of the U.S. The time has been open to debate for a number of years. The various charts are entered and numbered, in order that students of the dilemma may consider the historic documentation available along with the astrological symbology.

Dates for rectification given with U.S. chart No.1.

Source Notes

Julian Armistead quotes Allan Nevins and Henry Steel Commager, "A Pocket History of the United States." It reads, "Richard Henry Lee moved a resolution of independence ... which Congress adopted on July 2nd and proclaimed on July 4, 1776." Armistead cross referenced this in the official 1778 printing of the Journals of Congress. He spent the next three years researching historic events and placed the sun at the midheaven of the chart, resulting in a birth time of 12:04 PM EST.

LMR quotes an article in the San Bernardino Sun of 7/04/1995, written by Senator Serphin R. Maltese, New York State:

"It was on July 2, not July 4, that the Continental Congress passed a resolution initially declaring the independence of the colonies. Introduced on 6/07/1776 by Richard Henry Lee of Virginia, the resolution states, "Resolved, That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved."

This resolution paved the way for the Congress to adopt the final draft of the Declaration of Independence two days later, on July 4th."

AFA Feb/1965 writes that 7:00 PM is "based on a letter from John Adams to his wife, for July 2, 1776. Adams believed the nation should celebrate its independence not on July 4 but on July 2, the date of Lee's resolutions. David McCullough's biography "John Adams," 2001, has extensive references to personal letters and documents and in regard to the Declaration of Independence, while Adams wrote passionately and in detail about the events of July 2, the only notation her made about July 4 is that he took time off to shop for ladies' gloves and a new thermometer. Adams wrote that on 7/02/1776, Congress convened its final discussion and reading of the Declaration. At about 11:00 AM the debate closed and a vote was taken. Twelve colonies voted affirmative, while John Dickinson of New York was absent. Congress ordered the document authenticated and printed but it was another month before it was actually signed by the delegates. On August 2, the actual signing took place by some of the delegates. The last delegate, Thomas McKean of Delaware, did not sign until January 1777.

Kathryn Hansler, Sun Staff Writer in the San Bernardino Sun of 7/04/1989 writes, "July 4 is the date on which someone rang the Liberty Bell in the Philadelphia State House, but citizens of the time made little of it. Congress, on July 2, 1776, passed two resolutions authored by Richard Henry Lee declaring the country's independence from England. The following day, two Pennsylvania newspapers wrote that Congress had declared the colonies free and independent states." Further, Hansler writes that it was not until August, when the document came back from the printers, that the entire committee signed it.

In 1776, George Washington was out fighting the British and it was not until July 4, 1777 that he added his signature.


  • Mundane : Political : Birth of State or Country (USA founding)