Nation: USA No.1

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Nation: USA No.1 Gender: N/A
Sag rising chart
born on 4 July 1776 at 17:10 (= 5:10 PM )
Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 39n57, 75w10
Timezone LMT m75w10 (is local mean time)
Data source
Timed, original source unknown
Rodden Rating C
Collector: Rodden
Astrology data s_su.18.gif s_cancol.18.gif 13°19' s_mo.18.gif s_aqucol.18.gif 27°10 Asc.s_sagcol.18.gif 12°21'


Date of the Declaration of Independence, generally considered the chart of the U.S. The time has been open to debate since the 19th century. Successive charts shall be entered and numbered, in order that students of the dilemma may consider the historic documentation available along with the astrological symbology.

The following events may be used to aid in rectification:

Chronological History Of The United States

Prelude: On August 3, 1492, Christopher Columbus set sail to find a westward route to the east. He set foot on the New World (in what is now the Dominican Republic) on Oct 12, 1492. On April 2, 1513, Juan Ponce DeLeon established the first colony in what is now the United States (St. Augustine, Florida). On May 24, 1607, British ships landed on American soil at Jamestown, VA and on May 14, the first permanent English settlement was established.

The Revolutionary War officially began with the Battles of Lexington and Concord on Apr 19, 1775. On Jun. 14, 1775 the Continental Army was established by the Continental Congress with George Washington as Commander-in-Chief.

(Sep 2, 1752: Britain and the colonies under its control adopted the Gregorian calendar.)

(editor note: The events were moved from the biography section to the Event list further below)

1947: Jackie Robinson breaks baseball's racial barriers, Brooklyn, NY.

1947: TV entered average American homes

1953, July27: 38th Parallel Armistice - Korean War - signed

1954, Dec 2: US Senate censure of Joseph McCarthy

1955, Dec: Rosa Parks refused to move to back of bus, Montgomery, AL

1957: Sputnik went up.

1957: Integration of Little Rock, AR High School

1961, April 05: Alan Shepard first American in space.

1961, April 17: Bay of Pigs.

1962, Oct.22 - Nov 20: Cuban Missile Crisis

1962: Black student James Meredith enters U of MS with assistance of Fed Marshals

1963, Aug. 18: Equal Civil Rights for Blacks march, Washington, DC

1963, Sept 15: Bombing of 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, where 4 children were killed while attending Sunday School

1963, Nov 1: American-Vietnamese forces staged a coup in Vietnam.

1963, Nov 22: JFK assassinated

1964, June 19: Senate passed the Civil Rights Act, 7:40 PM, Washington, DC

1964, Aug 07: President Johnson won resolution from Congress to allow Vietnam police action and the U.S. began its military presence in Vietnam.

1965, Feb.14: Malcolm X assassinated, Harlem, NY

1965, Aug 6: Voting Rights Act

1965, Aug 11-16: Watts Riots over racial tensions

1967, Jan. 27: Apollo spacecraft fire killed Virgil Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee.

1968, Mar 16: My Lai Massacre

1968, April 4: M.L. King Jr assassinated, Memphis, TN

1968, June 5: Robert F. Kennedy assassinated, L.A. CA

1969, July 20: Man Lands on Moon

1960s, '70s: Two decades fraught with anti-war sentiment, women's issues and civil rights issues, peace and sexual freedom.

1970, May 4: Kent State University tragedy, protesting students shot by militia

1973, Jan. 27: The U.S. and Vietnam signed a peace treaty ending the Vietnam War and the last of American forces left Vietnam on Mar 29, 1973.

1972, June 17: Five men arrested for Watergate break-in

1973: Roe vs. Wade decision

1974, June 24: US Supreme Court orders Nixon to turn tapes over to special prosecutor Leon Jaworski

1974, Aug 8: Richard M. Nixon resigns from office

1975, April 12: U.S. to Cambodia pulls out and on April 30, Saigon fell and U.S. began its rescue of fleeing South Vietnamese and American civilians.

1979, Mar 26: Camp David Peace Accords resulted in peace treaty signed between Egypt and Israel

1979, Mar 28: Three-Mile Island Nuclear Disaster

1986, Jan 28: Space Shuttle Challenger explodes

1989, Oct 17: San Jose-Oakland-San Francisco Earthquake

1990, Aug. 2: Iraqi forces invaded Kuwait.

1990, Aug 2 – April 6, 1991: Persian Gulf War. (Desert Storm, UN Security Council authorized use of force if Iraq didn't withdraw from Kuwait by Jan 15, 1991. On Feb 24, 1991, Operation Desert Storm ground war began, and on Feb 27, the war was declared over. The cease-fire was signed Apr 6th.)

1991, Jan. 16: A U.N. air strike is launched on Iraq and a ground force liberated Kuwait by Feb 23, 1991. The cease-fire was signed between the U.N. and Iraq on Feb 28, 1991.

1991, Mar 3: Rodney King beating, leading to riots Apr 29-May 3, 1992 when four policemen were acquitted.

1992, Feb. 1: The United States and Russia signed a treaty officially ending the Cold War.

1995, Aug 30: Operation Deliberate Force, a sustained NATO air strike campaign against Bosnian Serb military targets, ending Sept 14, 1995, Bosnia.

1998, Aug. 20: American forces launch air strikes at two targets in retaliation for the American embassy bombings: a terrorist training facility in Afghanistan, and a chemical plant in Sudan.

1998, Dec.16: American forces launch the first of three air strikes at targets in Iraq with the second and third on successive dates.

1999, Mar. 23: NATO begins launching air strikes against Yugoslavia.

1999, Dec 31: End of Panama Canal Treaty

2000, Oct. 12: USS Cole terrorist attack, killing 17 Naval seamen.

2001, Sept. 11: Terrorists strikes made against the U.S. with suicide aircraft striking three targets.

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  • Other Misc. 4 July 1776 (The United States declared its Independence from Britain by approving the Declaration of Independence.)
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  • Other Misc. 8 August 1786 (The Continental Congress adopted the "dollar" and decimal coinage.)
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  • Other Misc. 21 February 1787 (Continental Congress adopted a resolution calling for a convention of state delegates to draw up a change to the Articles of Confederation.)
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  • Other Misc. 17 September 1787 (the delegates at the Philadelphia convention approved the Constitution and sent it to the Continental Congress)
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  • Other Misc. 28 September 1787 (Continental Congress sent the new Constitution to the states for ratification.)
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  • Other Misc. 30 April 1789 (George Washington was inaugurated the first president of the United States.)
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  • Other Misc. 24 December 1814 (Treaty of Ghent, ending War of 1812)
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  • Other Misc. 2 December 1823 (Monroe Doctrine signed.)
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  • Other Misc. 8 May 1846 (The Mexican War began with the Battle of Palo Alto and on May 13, the United States declared war on Mexico.)
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  • Other Misc. 19 June 1846 (First organized baseball game)
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  • Other Misc. 19 July 1848 (Seneca Falls Convention - Women's Rights Movement formally started here)
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  • Other Misc. 16 October 1859 (John Brown's Raid, for which he was hanged 12/02/1859.)
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  • Other Misc. 1 March 1861 (Abraham Lincoln was sworn in as President. He issued the Emancipation Proclamation on Sept 22, 1862.)
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  • Other Misc. 12 April 1861 (Gunfire opened at Fort Sumter, Charleston, SC: more Americans died in the Civil War than any war before or since.)
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  • Other Misc. 22 September 1862 (Emancipation Proclamation, declaring slaves free as of Jan 1, 1863.)
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  • Other Misc. 9 April 1865 (General Lee surrendered to General Grant.)
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  • Other Misc. 4 February 1887 (Interstate Commerce Act.)
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  • Other Misc. 1897 (Economic rise began that lasted 22 years.)
  • Other Misc. 20 April 1898 (The United States declared war on Spain. They signed an armistice on Aug 12, 1898 and on Dec. 10, 1898, the United States and Spain signed the Treaty of Paris, officially ending the Spanish-American War.)
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  • Other Misc. 17 December 1903 (Wright Brothers' Flight)
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  • Other Misc. 18 April 1906 (San Francisco Earthquake and fire)
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  • Other Misc. 6 April 1909 (Robert Peary and Matthew Henson reach North Pole)
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  • Other Misc. 28 July 1914 (World War I began in Bosnia.)
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  • Other Misc. 1920 (begin decade of boom time, growth and affluence)
  • Other Misc. 20 May 1927 (Flight of the Spirit of St. Louis)
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  • Other Misc. 25 October 1929 (Stock market crash. By 1933, 1/4 of Americans were unemployed)
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  • Other Misc. 6 March 1933 (Bank Holiday ordered by FDR to buy time to prevent the collapse of the banking system by an act of Congress. Most solvent banks were reopened Apr.1, 1933)
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  • Other Misc. 7 December 1941 (Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, HI: U.S. entered WW II the following day. On Dec. 11, 1941, Germany and Italy declared war on the United States.)
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  • Other Misc. 9 April 1942 (Battle of Bataan - US military Pacific defeat)
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  • Other Misc. 15 May 1942 (Women allowed to serve in all branches of the armed services.)
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  • Other Misc. 6 June 1944 (D-Day: landing of allied troups in Normandy)
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  • Other Misc. 19 February 1945 (until 17 March: Battle of Iwo Jima.)
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  • Other Misc. 6 August 1945 (U.S. dropped atom bomb on Hiroshima, three days later on Nagasaki.)
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  • Other Misc. 2 September 1945 (Japan unconditionally surrendered to the U. S., ending World War II.)
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  • Mundane : Terrorist attack 11 September 2001 at 08:46 AM in Manhattan (First plane crashed into World Trade Center (North Tower))
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  • Mundane : Terrorist attack 11 September 2001 at 09:03 AM in Manhattan (Second plane crashed into World Trade Center (South Tower))
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  • Other Misc. 11 September 2001 at 09:59 AM in Manhattan (South Tower collapses)
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  • Other Misc. 11 September 2001 at 10:28 AM in Manhattan (North Tower collapses)
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  • Other Misc. 11 September 2001 at 5:20 PM in Manhattan (7 WTC (Building 7) collapses)
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  • Other Misc. 11 September 2001 at 10:03 AM in Shanksville (United Airlines Flight 93 is crashed into a field)
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  • Mundane : Terrorist attack 11 September 2001 at 09:37 AM in Pentagon (Flight 77 crashes into the western side of the Pentagon)
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Source Notes

Date of the signature of the Declaration of Independence, from the Library of Congress, The Philadelphia Historic Society. Thomas Jefferson, when an old man, said it was "late afternoon" when the document was signed. John Adams and John Quincey Adams said they signed "late in the day."

Sibly, an 18th century British astrologer, published the first known horoscope of the U.S. for 10:00 PM GMT which equals 5:00 PM, LMT, Philadelphia. John B. Early, an American astrologer, had written on the margin of his contemporary Raphael's ephemeris, "Declaration signed 10:10 PM." on the July page of his almanac of 1776.

(Sibly's chart, by 1785 was variously quoted as 5:00 PM, 4:50 PM and 5:15 PM; apparently rectified by different astrologers.)

In Astrology Bulletina July 1931, Lomax quotes Jefferson's records, "Debates having taken up the greater parts of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th days of July, were in the evening of the last day, closed. The Declaration was reported by the committee agreed to by the House and signed by every member present, except Mr. Dickinson."

BJA (British Journal of Astrology) May/1932 gives 12:10 PM as "generally accepted," adding that 3:30 AM is "traditional hearsay."

AFA (American Federation of Astrology) Feb/1965 gives 2:17 AM as "most frequently seen," adding that J. Hazelrigg gives 12:10 PM, Clement Hay gives 3:02 AM, and G. Hunt gives 2:00 PM LMT.

Vivian Bradford gives 2:40:18 PM LMT, quoted by Woods in Mercury Hour Apr/1980.

Manly P. Hall, after visiting the Library of Congress, said that he found writings that supported "between 4:30 and 6:00 PM" but without noting his source of information.

Dane Rudhyar gave a time of 5:14 PM in an article "The Astrology of America's Destiny."

Biography: Herbert S. Alan, "John Hancock, Patriot in Purple," 1940, p.228, "At last, about 2 o'clock in the afternoon of the 4th, the great white paper was reported ... and immediately ratified."

John Clark Ridpath, A.M. Professor of Belles-Lettres and History in Indiana Asbury University, "History of the United States from the Discovery of America to the Present Time" states on p.309, "The discussion was resumed on the morning of the 4th, and at two o'clock on the afternoon of that memorable day the Declaration of American Independence was adopted by a unanimous vote."

On 12 April 2016, Wayne Turner submitted the following amendment for this entry. We add it below, but keep the original source notes above.

Date of the adoption of Thomas Jefferson's preamble to the Resolution of Independence, which was passed on the 2nd of July. Jefferson, in his autobiography, written when he was 77 years old, states, "The debates, having taken up the greater parts of the 2d, 3d, and 4th days of July, were on the evening of the last, closed; the Declaration was reported by the committee, agreed to by the house, and signed by every member present, except Mr. Dickinson." This account, however, is not accepted by modern historians, who believe that only John Hancock signed the document as President of Congress on this date, with the signature of Charles Thomson, the Secretary to Congress, added as a witness. Unfortunately, the original signed copy given to printer John Dunlap later that day has disappeared, but his printed copies do show these two signatures. [1] There appears to have been a deliberate attempt to promote this mythology by three members of the committee chosen to draft the Declaration: Jefferson, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin. See this Wikipedia article about the signing: [2]

And this article about the Resolution passed on July 2nd: [3]

Thomas Jefferson's Autobiography is here: [4].

A scholarly version with notes on the question of the signing is here: [5]

The chart you show for 5:10 PM LMT, Philadelphia, (75w09 is closer to Independence Hall than 75w10) is based on the USA Independence horoscope found in Ebenezer Sibly's book, A Complete Illustration of the Celestial Science of Astrology, later reissued as A New and Complete Illustration of the Celestial Science of Astrology, and under other titles in the 19th century.

Bibliographic details were provided by Michael Baigent in an article in The Astrological Journal titled "Ebenezer Sibly and the Declaration of Independence, 1776: An Investigation". (Winter 1983-84, vol. 26, #1, pages 34 -38) On page 35, quoting information supplied by the United Grand Lodge of England, he states: "In the early 1780's the English astrologer and Freemason published, under the title of The Celestial Science of Astrology, a weekly journal devoted to astrological basics. Later, compilations of these journals were issued as a bound volume in four parts. The first two parts were issued in 1784, the third in 1787 and the fourth in 1788. The third part published in 1787 contains a chart for the USA Declaration of Independence, giving a time. This is the first known appearance of such a chart." On page 37 he includes the interesting note that a catalog of Jefferson's voluminous library included one astrological text—John Gadbury's The Doctrine of Nativities. See here: [6]

John B. Earley [not Early], an American astrologer of the early 20th century, had found written on the margin of a July, 1776 Parker's Ephemeris page, "July 4th, 10:10 P. M., American Independence signed", presumably noting Sibly's chart data. Here is the full story as published by him in a pamphlet dated 1914 titled Horoscopes of the USA, or Our Nation's True Nativity and reprinted in the July, 1976 American Astrology magazine, page 18: "I was impressed, soon after the commencement of the Great European War, to write, once more, to a London Publishing Company asking if they could supply me with an ephemeris for 1776, and was informed that they had a Parker's Ephemeris for that year. Upon receipt of the ephemeris I was agreeably surprised to discover that the time of signing of the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America, was written in on the margin of the pages, giving the planets' places for July, in these words: "July 4, 10:10 P.M., American Independence signed," and the planets places on that date underscored in purple ink....To get the true solar time, I deducted 4 minutes from 10:10 P.M. and by my method of rectification, I have made a further deduction of 2 minutes, which gives 10:04 P.M. apparent time as the nation's natal hour." This quote was originally supplied by Helen Griffin in a letter to the magazine in 1940 in which she also included some delineation notes by Earley about his proposed chart from his pamphlet. (Edward Kohout's article on the Sibly horoscope includes a scan of Earley's chart [7] with his notation that the discovery of the time occurred in October, 1914. [8] The 18 page booklet was copyrighted in December, 1914, and is now available as a reprint. The first two pages can be read at Amazon: [9]) Earley assumed that 10:10 PM was LMT, though LAT was more widely used at this date.

The time of 10:10 PM has been rectified by several other astrologers in the 20th century, notably Dane Rudhyar who proposed a time of 5:13:55 pm, LMT in Philadelphia, which puts 13Sag10 on the ascendant, just 2' from the MC of 13Sag12 drawn on Ebenezer Sibly's horoscope. See the Frontspiece of Rudhyar's book The Astrology of America's Destiny (1974), where this chart is reproduced from Sibly's work. (Rudhyar misspelled the name as "Sibley," which has created some confusion in the discussion around this chart.) [10]

This article by Rudhyar from a 1941 issue of Horoscope Magazine gives his exposition of the rationale behind his chart: [11]

A rectified time of 4:50 pm (4:49:49) was promoted by British astrologer Vivian Robson in the pages of the British Journal of Astrology in 1932. [12] Ed Kohout quotes him, "... I have been looking into the [Sibly] horoscope there suggested and have very little doubt that it is the correct one. A rectification by events brings out a local time of 4:49:49 as the exact moment for which the map should be erected, so that we are justified in choosing 4:50 PM."

Susan Manuel wrote a thorough analysis of this chart in an article published in the Spring, 1994 issue of The NCGR Journal titled, "Making Sense of Sibly." In it she states: "It took me some time and experimentation to realize that the Sibly chart was a strange meld of some sort, with angles corresponding more closely to those of the 1776 summer solstice at London than to the angles on July 4 at 10:10 P.M. Much later, this was confirmed when I obtained an excerpt from Sibly's Celestial Science of Astrology, explaining the basis for his American Independence chart." This quote is from page 3 next to Table 1 in the PDF that she uploaded to the "Mundane astrologers" Facebook group in January, 2014. It is rather blurry, but most of it can be read successfully. [13] She notes in Table 2, and on page page 4, that the positions of the Sun and Moon correspond closely to near noon in Philadelphia, which suggests that the true Sibly chart should likely be cast for this time as well. She states, "We can be quite certain that it was not his intention to calculate either the angles or the planets in his Independence horoscope for 10:10 p.m." (A Parker's Ephemeris for 1776 is available as a reprint, so the discrepancy in the longitude of Mercury could be checked, as well as resolving the doubt about LMT or LAT. [14])

I would conclude that Sibly's chart interpretation shows that he had a good grasp of the astrology of his day, but as a Freemason he was inclined to mix facts with allegories and symbolism which has ultimately contributed to the confusion and misunderstanding surrounding the time of signing of the Declaration of American Independence. (Benjamin Franklin and Robert Livingston, two members of the drafting committee, were also high Masons. It was Livingston serving as Chancellor of New York who swore in fellow Freemason George Washington as the first President of the United States in 1789.)

Wikipedia's article on Sibly is here. --- (end of Wayne Turner's submission)


  • Mundane : Political : Birth of State or Country (USA founding)