Nation: Saudi Arabia

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Nation: Saudi Arabia Gender: N/A
born on 15 January 1902 at 06:52 (= 06:52 AM )
Place Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 24n38, 46e43
Timezone LMT m46e43 (is local mean time)
Data source
Conflicting dates, AAX/AX sources
Rodden Rating DX
Collector: Rodden
Astrology data s_su.18.gif s_capcol.18.gif 24°05' s_mo.18.gif s_piscol.18.gif 27°12 Asc.s_capcol.18.gif 24°29'

Alternative birthtime
Date 22 September 1932 at 17:56:34 (= 5:56 PM )
Place Riyadh, SAUDI, 24n38, 46e43
Timezone LMT m46e43 (is local mean time)
Astrology data s_su.18.gif s_vircol.18.gif 29°22' s_mo.18.gif s_gemcol.18.gif 24°44 Asc.s_aricol.18.gif 00°32'


Saudi Arabia (House of Saud). The whole notion of births of nations is misleading. The application of a biological metaphor to political processes gave rise to the false idea that nations are 'born' and hence must have one chart, an assumption which has bedeviled the argument over which is the 'correct' chart for the USA. What we have instead are horoscopes for significant political moments."

Source Notes

Nick Campion, Book of World Horoscopes, chart 288, p 325. Campion writes, "Altogether I give three possible charts with detailed historical reasoning. The Rodden data system is difficult to apply to national horoscopes because of the judgement concerning which criteria should be taken as constituting a national chart. That is why I provide historical reasoning for every chart. Nowhere in the book do I say 'this is THE chart...'

Pam Paquette write in a forum posting on 27 Jan 2015: "By royal decree issued on Sept. 18, 1932, Ibn-Sa'ud declared that the separate kingdoms and dominions would be united into one Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, with him as king, on September 23. [..] the Saudi National Day is September 23, and that was the date of the Sun's Libra ingress in 1932. [..[ I think it's fair to use a sunrise chart, since that is the first call to prayer of the day. Alternatively, we could use the precise time of the Sun's ingress, which is 9:22:32 AM".

Note by ADB editor: In the Islamic tradition, like in the Jewish, the day begins at sunset (of the previous day). This would make Sunset on 22 September the correct date. Sunset was, based on Swiss Ephemeris, at 14:49:42 UT or 17:56:34 LMT, giving an Ascendant of 0°32 Aries.


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