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How do I access the free extended readings on Thursdays. I have tried
clicking on to different parts of the page on Wednesday and Friday and cant
find the link. Can you give me specifice direction thanks, Leah
Leah M i r a n d a
London, Great Britain --- Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 19:11 Universal Time
I' d like to search a birth city in France, called Saint Etiènne, near
Lion, but I didn't find. Is it possible to include it in the Atlas Query?
Thank you
Hideko
Hideko N i s h i m o t o
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil --- Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 03:57 Universal Time
Alois adds: The Saint is abbreviated frequently to St in French names.
Please enter: St Etienne
i am very interested in the transits of pluto i have it about to conjunct my
mid heaven at 27 sag and moon 0cap trining uranus mars and natal pluto in 6th
house virgo any sugestions apart from Robert Hand Planets in Transit as i have
this book it suggests career changes? Any feed back would be great. I visited
your astro shop while in London and yes you are the best i ve found.Many
Thanks Moira
Moira B r o d i e
Australia --- Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 08:05 Universal Time
I didn't find any way to get the free two-month trial subscription to your
online Extended Daily Horoscope.
Tuula H d
Harjavalta, Finland --- Monday, May 29, 2006 at 09:27 Universal Time
Alois adds: It is simple, as described in the offer:
This is how it works: Order an Astro*Intelligence horoscope report by Liz
Greene or Robert Hand in the AstroShop. You will then find a link in your
shopping cart which allows you to order the free two-month trial subscription.
Here's an idea that might prove interesting: give people the option to
specify their relationships to the people for whom they have stored birth
data.
Hopefully, without invading any individual's privacy (names would be kept out
of this) you could explore trends in the charts of married couples, parents
and children, teachers and students, bosses and employees, etc. It would be a
twist on some of Carl Jung's studies of the astrological patterns (Sun, Moon
and Ascendent in particular) of married couples.
I for one would be willing to tell you my husband's birth data for comparison
to mine, and I think many others might, too.
There may be legal and ethical ramifications that have not occurred to me at
the time of this writing, so please feel free to comment on them.
Thank you again for the best astrology site on the Web.
Sincerely,
Mary T.
(Born 03/09/1980, 1:10AM, Washington, DC, USA)
Mary T h e v e n o t [ ugnel/lenguatron åt hotmail/com ] 
explain e-mail
Austin, TX, USA --- Monday, May 29, 2006 at 03:43 Universal Time
Alois adds: The temptation to collect information for research is certainly
there. But we have clearly decided NOT to collect such information. The
data our users enter on the website are private, and protected. The only
use made of the data is made by the users themselves, to view and read
their horoscopes.
I had a question regarding modern horoscope readings. In the times of the
Greeks, it is true that the particular constellations were overhead at the
time of our birth, yet this has changed over the years. I am a Sagitarrius,
according to the standard system, but it was not the actual constellation
sagitarrius overhead at the time of my birth. Please explain.
Rose L
Los Banos, CA, USA --- Monday, May 29, 2006 at 01:50 Universal Time
Alois adds: There is an article in the section 'Understanding astrology', with
the title Precession and Zodiac.
It deals with this shift between the fixed-star-based sidereal zodiac, and the
sun-earth based tropical zodiac. The latter is used in western astrology.
I just had a suggestion for Ms. Greene- or whoever wants to tackle this
topic. I enjoyed her articles regarding Chiron, but have been searching for
some mention of the Chiron-Saturn link- in natal and synastry charts. I am
mostly interested in the hardcore scientific evidence, though I understand
they are strongly linked mythologically. I have read what the Magi Society
has purportedly discovered and do not support their ideas. I think Ms.
Greene put a great deal of thought into Chiron-Sun aspects and would do an
equally great job at discussing Chiron-Saturn. If you could pass this along
to her at some point, I would appreciate it. Thank you.
Ashley
Virginia, USA --- Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 20:08 Universal Time
j'aimerais savoir si vous joignez des explications quant à l'emplacement de
nos planètes sur la carte du monde, merci
Sylvie R a j k o v i c
Punaauia Cédex 1/Tahiti, France --- Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 05:30 Universal Time
Alois adds: Je ne suis pas sure de quelle mape vous parlez. Mais nous avons
le service 'AstroClick Travel' sous 'Horoscopes gratuites' que donne des
interpretations des cettes lignes planetaires. Malheureusement, le tèxte n'est
pas encore traduit en français.
I’m not sure this is the correct forum for this question, but here goes. I’ve
got a conjunction between Saturn and Pluto in July that last for two weeks,
which seems about right. My boyfriend has the same conjunction in his chart a
month later, but his lasts for nine months. Neither planet is in retrograde
during his conjunction. How can that possibly be? Could you advise? Thanks.
Lola J o r d a n
New Orleans, LA, USA --- Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 21:20 Universal Time
Alois adds: Your Pluto is at 13°11' Leo, while your boyfriend's (if he is G.)
is at 17°34' Leo.
If you look at the ephemeris, you will find that Saturn passes through 13 Leo
in July 2006, without ever getting back to.
It passes over 17 Leo in late August, then turns retrograde when it is at 25
Leo in December. It comes back to 18°9' Leo in April 2007. This is within the
orb of one degree of your friend's natal Pluto, and therefore this transit
will be reactivated in that period, making its total duration of nine months.
hellow again:
maybe you want to know some more about this Saturn-Pluto cycle, or others:
they have been extensively studied by Vicente CASSANYA, a great
Spanish-Valencian astrologer. (I told you about on day 19).
you can visit his web: www.cassanya.com
(written in Spanish).--
the section is Astromundial.--
byebye.........------
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Antonio A l m a z a n
madrid, spain --- Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:16 Universal Time
hellow people:
perhaps you want to know some more about this SATURN-PLUTO cycle, or others:
(i told you about on day 19). They have been deeply studied by Vicente
CASSANYA, a great Spanish-Valencian astrologer.
see his web: www.cassanya.com
(written in Spanish)
thankyou !!---------
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Antonio A l m a z a n
madrid, spain --- Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:14 Universal Time
Regards SS (a concerned subscriber) two entries below:
As a test, I just tried to write email to Jenna@astro.com, the address you
supplied and was told the mail is not deliverable, user unknown. I think
your statement that she is part of your website is in error and the evidence
I offer is the undeliverable email using the address you supplied. I am a
little concerned that your accusation will be attributed by other members as
a shortcoming on the part of this site. I just reviewed the People at
Astrodienst which describes their staff and cannot find a single person from
this site with the name Jenna. Are you sure this is not just someone you
found in the feedback forum and transacted directly with her and now are
holding this site somewhat responsible?
Kent T o l l e y
Long Beach, CA, USA --- Friday, May 26, 2006 at 00:31 Universal Time
Alois adds: I do not know a person with that name. It is a fake, if anyone
claims that such a person exists or is connected to us.
Over a period of 2 years, I've gotten several horoscope reports from this
site and one other in the States all from Liz Greene using Alois Treindl's
expert system. I've gotten two Psychological, two Children, one Career and
Vocation, one Relationship, and one Long Term progressed horoscope. All six
from Astrodienst arrived within approximately three weeks. They have to be
calculated, written up, and then mailed across the ocean by snail-mail and I
have never wanted to pay for the DHL rapid delivery because it's expensive.
Not knowing Jenna and having read all of Liz Greene's books and learning so
much from her, there was no question in my mind about whose interpretation of
my chart I wanted to read. I urge you to read any one of Liz Greene's books
and see if you would not find her interpretation of your own chart
worthwhile. I don't think there is a better source of high quality
astrological knowledge in the world. I have Moon conjunct Jupiter, Pluto,
North Node in Leo in the Tenth house and inherited from my Mom a
predisposition to large dramatic statement in order to make a point, but in
this instance I am just being matter of fact.
Kent T o l l e y
Long Beach, CA, USA --- Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 18:08 Universal Time
i purchase a horoscope from jenna @astro.com over 6 week and hav e still not
received the reading, i am concerned that i have been part of a fraud as she
is failing to answer any of the emails chasing up this. i am hoping that she
is just busy however being part of your website feel this should be looked
into
a concerned subscriber
ss
middlesbrough, Great Britain --- Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:45 Universal Time
hello people, and thankyou Astrodienst and thankyou everybody too
!!.........
this is just to tell you how the stocks markets aregoing to go in the next
months, according to stars...... in case you want to turn rich....... that
is, the SATURN-PLUTO cycle.......::
--- in months of June and July, there will be a small crack in stock markets
all over the world, because we come into the phase of SESQUI-SQUARE (135º) of
the Saturn-Pluto cycle.
--- in August, we will begin the phase of TRIGON (120º), that is extremely
possitive, and we will have a BOOM in stocks for many months: stock markets
will go higher and higher for many months because of this TRIGON between
Saturn and Pluto. It happen the same in last Trigon, around 1996...
OK, i hope you like it...... and have good profits........!!
****************+
Antonio A l m a z a n
madrid, Spain --- Friday, May 19, 2006 at 19:34 Universal Time
Hallo, es ist unglaublich, aber eure (kostenlose) Vorschau trifft bei mir den
Nagel auf den Kopf! Woher kommt dieses Wissen und wer sammelt das blos alles?
Habe schon oft bei euch reingeschaut, oft verstehe ich die Texte erst später
richtig, aber dafür dann umso klarer. Es hat mir immer geholfen und Mut
gemacht. Letztendlich zeigt das Horoskop immer einen positiven Trend in der
persönlichen Weiterentwicklung und gibt dem Leben somit Sinn, vor allem in
Momenten in denen man daran manchmal zweifelt. Danke!
Charly S a u t e r l e u t e [ sutis/situs åt onlinehome/de ] erklären
Ravensburg, Deutschland --- Friday, May 19, 2006 at 09:27 Universal Time
I have been visiting the astrodienst website for about 1 month and have been
impressed enough to now obtain a subscription.I like the security and
professional aspects of this site and having been learning about astrology
slowly in respect to my life for about 15 years I am hoping to gain greater
insight.
That Robert hand and Liz Greene are featured here has been an encouragement.
I have used Robert Hand and Robert Pelletier's books for some years but I
confess that I have not had the pleasure to own any of Liz Greene's books as
yet.
So thank you at Astrodienst for this opportunity! Adrienne Wright New Zealand
Adrienne W r i g h t
Taupo, New Zealand --- Friday, May 19, 2006 at 05:53 Universal Time
Liz Greene's Psychological Horoscope is the most insightful I have ever
received. It has really opened up new avenues for exploration and helped me
see the past in a new light. Thank you, Liz.
Karen B a y l y
Canley Heights NSW, Australia --- Friday, May 19, 2006 at 01:56 Universal Time
Ah, if only you offered astrological matching. If it was the same quality as
everything else you do, you'd get a lot of takers!
Miriam W e i n s t e i n
San Anselmo, USA --- Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 22:09 Universal Time
Ich muss sagen das ich noch nie ein Horoskop bzw eine Persönlichkeitsdeutung
gelesen habe die so genau zutrifft -auf mich bezogen.
Und ich muss sagen das ihr mir echt geholfen habt, ihr habt mir nämlich mit
einem horoskop geholfen ein paar dinge zu verstehen und vorallem hat es mir
mut gemacht.
Vielen Dank das das Team von Astro.com !
Daniel G.
W., D. --- Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 21:35 Universal Time
10 days ago I ordered a Child's Horoscope for my new born niece. It was sent
very quickly, I was very pleased. But there's one thing that lowered my sense
of delight: I could not share it with other family members once I gave it to
my brother and her wife (after all, it was meant as a present). So it would
be very pleasant for your costumers if you sent the horoscope not only in
paper, but also on a cd, as a pdf via mail etc. After all I already paid for
the horoscope, so shouldn't I be able to read it when- and whereever I want
to?
Manuela G u m i l a r
Wien, Austria --- Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 18:30 Universal Time
Alois adds: We have sent you now a free PDF file by email.
How does astro click travel work? What are all the lines over the earth htat
relate to my birthchart? How does that work? I would be grateful if someone
could direct me to a website that could give me some information ont his
topic.
Alexander
Alexander B u e n o
Duncan, BC, Canada --- Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 13:51 Universal Time
Hallo
Kann es sein, dass sie meine gesamten Daten einfach gelöscht haben? Seit
gestern kann ich nicht mehr zugreifen!
Ich finde es absolut daneben, dass ich nach ca. 1,5 Jahren einfach so
eliminiert werde. Allerdings gebe ich Ihnen die Gelegenheit, mir zu erklären,
wie ich einfach gelöscht werden
konnte.
Gruss Annett Wagner
Mucki
Liechtenstein --- Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 15:54 Universal Time
I want to learn Astrology. Are some articles available on net which can make
me unerstand the astrology. my particular interest is in love and marriage
astrology. As i faced lot of tensions in my life yet.
Thanks
tarun
Tarun A g a r w a l [ nurat/tarun/virgo ät gmail/com ] explain e-mail
Jodhpur, India --- Monday, May 15, 2006 at 03:28 Universal Time
I was looking up a chart for October 2, 1958, at noon, in San Franciso,
California. The chart indicated that this was eight hours behind Universal
Time (20:00), which would be correct if we were on Pacific Standard Time.
However, California is on Pacific Daylight Time until the last Sunday in
October. This has been the case since 1950, I believe. Can you explain this
discrepancy? I would hate for the chart to be an hour off.
Edward J o h n s o n
Oakland, CA, USA --- Sunday, May 14, 2006 at 23:56 Universal Time
Alois adds: in 1958, there was no 'uniform timezone act' and rules were
different.
DST for San Francisco started April 27 1958 and ended Sept 28
Just rely on our database and trust us!
Dear Astrodienst,
I would really like it if you include progressed Davidson charts in the
Extended Horoscope section. Is there any chance of this option being included
in the near future? I would find this incredibly useful and I'm sure that
others would as well.
Thanks, Karina
Karina M c L a c h l a i n
London, Great Britain --- Sunday, May 14, 2006 at 17:00 Universal Time
je trouve votre signe tres interressant, malheureusement, je voulais rentrer
des données concernant une amie qui est née en Guadeloupe à Moule, or non
seulement la ville de Moule n'est pas repertoriée mais Point à Pitre, qui est
la capitale et donc la ville la plus importante de l'ile, n'y est pas non
plus…et il est evidemment imperatif pour votre site de rentrer le nom d'une
ville meme pour une ile comme la Guadeloupe…J'attends vos solutions, merci
Alexandre P e r i n e l l i
France --- Sunday, May 14, 2006 at 11:08 Universal Time
Alois adds: La capitale de Guadeloupe s'appelle 'Pointe à Pitre', et je la
connais de mes vacances an 2005. J'ai appris le français en Guadeloupe, à
Saint Anne, en
fait. Pointe à Pitre est dans notre base des données.
Pour voir toutes les villes en Guadeloupe, entrez
,GUAD
(une virgule avant GUAD)
Bravo Kent Tolley! why should the professional people of Astrodienst have
people criticise them or complain that a subscription is too expensive? where
else would you get such high quality, wide ranging knowledge from AT ALL for
free? These people have families, mortgages and a right to earn a living
without others carping about the price ?They, like us, live in the real world
- it's a choice for the individual to appreciate their huge experience,
generosity and breadth if they choose not to opt for paid services, it is not
necesary to belittle people for earning a crust......and would YOU run a
feedback where every Tom, Dick and Harry can complain about the free services
offered???!
Maggy C a s s i n
den haag, Netherlands --- Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 19:01 Universal Time
Another point of view:
This year is the second year I've subscribed to the extended daily horoscope
readings and I consider it a bargain. I come here every day and read all the
transits to my natal chart which gives a more complete picture than just two
that would normally be available. I think consumers ALWAYS wish the item was
cheaper than it is. The price of a year's subscription for the extended
daily horoscope is approximately the price of one book or one Starbucks Latte
per month. When I read the transit interpretations by Robert Hand I also
gradually and painlessly learn the meaning of each one. In addition, I am
able to put friends and family into the system and get daily readings as
well as Astro-Click portraits for them. From my point of view the amount of
information I have access to for an entire year is well worth the price of
admission. But then I am hungry for knowledge and can think of little else
more important on which to spend my money. I like knowing my subscription
helps sponsor the people who work so hard to maintain this site for everyone
to use.
Kent T o l l e y
Long Beach, CA, USA --- Friday, May 12, 2006 at 20:46 Universal Time
I was reading the section on why only the yesterday and tomorrow options are
available for free viewing. In your explanation you state that subscriptions
are down and that if only 2 out of a 1000 people payed for the subscription
that you would generate enough income to keep the service free for the other
998. While I appreciate your service and would love to see it stay free I
personally can not afford the subscriptions fee. But if my economics class
rings any bells it is this. If you are not getting enough people willing to
pay 32 for the subscription lower the price. If it was 10 I could afford it
and would probably buy the subscription. I'm sure many other people would be
more likely to as well. and if you had 7 people buy the subscription at 10
you'd still be generating more than 2 at 32. In fact I'm sure you could
probably get a lot MORE than 7 people to purchase a subscription if it was
10. Even more so if it was 5 (in which case you'd only need 13 people to
maintain income levels). I think you have a great service but maybe you're
asking for too much money from individuals. Hopefully this might help you in
the future. Thank you again for your wonderful service and the best of luck
to you all.
Peace and Love,
JC Wright
John W r i g h t
Asheville, USA --- Friday, May 12, 2006 at 19:56 Universal Time
My daily horoscope for today is entitled Speaking your mind. As always, it is
an insightful and in-depth entry. However, my horoscope today is accompanied
by an illustration which looks a lot like the ass of a man sticking out,
kneeling, and a pair of boots. I find it strange, hard-to-interpret, and a
little offensive. Perhaps I am not seeing the image as it's meant to be seen?
Please advise.
Mish M i s h
Chicago, USA --- Friday, May 12, 2006 at 14:22 Universal Time
Hello Astrodienst
Firstly, thank you so very much for providing this wonderful service to
humanity. It has been a great help to me, personally, in coming to terms with
what an eccentric fellow I am (Uranus square midheaven) amongst the other
oddities of my personality!
One query: On the list of major aspects of my personal portrait it is said I
have Sun sextile Pluto (6'36) but elswhere on the site (Astroclick portrait
or natal chart) this aspect is nowhere to be found. Is this an error?
Yours sincerely
Glenn Langdell
Glenn L a n g d e l l
Brighton, Great Britain --- Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:07 Universal Time
As I read about the transit titled 'Your inner essence' (Jupiter Sextile
Pluto activity period from end of December 2005 until middle of September
2006) I noticed that the last paragraph seems to be missing content toward
the end. Is there a way to get to the end of that phrase/paragraph? Thank
you. Here's the paragraph in question: 'Sometimes a regeneration theme is
expressed through religious or spiritual rebirth, through understanding the
deeper significance of your life and having it transform your being. And you
will do what you can to share your learning with others. Sharing everything
that comes to you at this time is very important to you. Either this
influence will transform you by transforming your surroundings, or you will
become the vehicle through which your world is transformed. Either way, you
are transformed along with your friends, neighbors and' [it ends here]
Archimedes B i b i a n o
New York, USA --- Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 14:25 Universal Time
The Daily activity periods seem off by approx 3 days. Was
this a computer glitch, or a new method of imparting info?
Candy ...
PS Thanks for your great gift to all of us, the use of your astrology site
for incredible self-knowledge.
Candy H a u s a u e r
Duluth, MN, USA --- Monday, May 8, 2006 at 12:58 Universal Time
According to your site I sould be a Taurus rising (born at 8:31pm on October
3rd, 1965, in Stockton California) but everythig I've read has told me I'm a
Gemini rising and this absolutely fits my personality. Just curious as to
why that is.
Thanks,
Dr. Ritah Parrish
Ritah P a r r i s h
USA --- Monday, May 8, 2006 at 02:47 Universal Time
Alois adds: I can only say that we compute correctly, and that the degree of
the zodiac rising in the east at a given time and place is a fact of nature;
there cannot be an argument about it, as it does not depend on opinions.
For your date and place, you need to be born at 21:00 or later if you want a
Gemini ascendant. Before that, it is taurus.
Great website! It's a very humanitarian service you run here.
I am writing to ask if there is any way to add more Arabic Parts to
horoscopes. If not, I think this would be a great feature to implement --
either a large list of traditional/modern parts or a custom part input.
Thank you for your time!
Sam S
USA --- Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 00:10 Universal Time
My wife and I began using your site more than two years ago, and visited
often for a few weeks and less so for the following months. As I visited this
morning, after not visiting for a long time, I attempted to verify my
personal information, and Donna's, and since we've moved and not used the
site during much of this hiatus, I cannot recall what email we used, nor the
password. Do you have some default that drops this sort of access if not used
or activated for some period of time?
Jess F r e h e r- L y o n s
Carlsbad, CA, USA --- Saturday, May 6, 2006 at 14:25 Universal Time
I have never had a problem with the place entry when casting a chart until I
put in La Plata, Maryland [38n32, 76w59]--Astrodienst listed four choices,
but Maryland was not among them. Is there any way to enter the longitude and
latitude when requesting a chart?
J S e r v i s
Los Lunas, USA --- Friday, May 5, 2006 at 00:39 Universal Time
Alois adds: Please enter only
la,md
Ordered a relationship horoscope between me and a close friend, it arrived
today. Very interesting 3 hour read. Well worth buying for all those who are
dubious. Thanks to all the people who made Astro Dienst possible.
Dave
Essex, UK --- Wednesday, May 3, 2006 at 17:01 Universal Time
First, a thanks for your wonderful services. I use Astrodienst almost
exclusively for all my astrological research. And now, my question: is there
any way to add the quintile and bi-quintile aspects to one of the extended
transit reports? Perhaps I've just overlooked the right chart or setting. I'd
appreciate any help, as the idea of doing the calculations by hand is
daunting!
Laurel W a l l e r
Waco, TX, USA --- Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 19:40 Universal Time
Have been coming to your web site all the time and take most of my horoscopes
to heart. Until today, that is, when my horoscope was exactly what a good
friend of mine's was around five days ago. The same exact horoscope. I
don't know if this is possible, but it places a little doubt within me and
makes me think the horoscopes are being recycled in some way.
Fee
LA, USA --- Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 04:19 Universal Time
Alois adds: Two different people can have the same transit on the same day.
The text is really not WRITTEN for you individually, but SELECTED for you
individually.
Please see the FAQ How can two people born
at different times have exactly the same daily horoscope?
I am trying to generate a chart for a friend of mine who was born on a leap
year in 1967 I believe - February 29. The program won't let me generate the
chart because it processes it as an error. Nevertheless, my friend was born
on Feb 29 on a leap year. How can I get this chart? Is there some way someone
can generate it for me in another manner from the website? I am kind of
disappointed because I would think the program would take into account that
there was a feb 29 and has been nine times since my friend was born.
Thanks - Melissa B.
Melissa B u c k h e i t
Tucson, USA --- Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 03:25 Universal Time
Alois adds: The year 1967 is no leap year and has no 29th February. Your friend
is making fun of you, telling you such a thing. Maybe you should start not
to believe everything he/she tells you.
Only years divisible by 4
are leap years.
This is a great site. I too feel a little guilty about using your wonderful
services. The Swiss epheremis is just mind-blowing.
The charts you generated for me were absolutely correct for my Ascendant
and MC. I have though, a little quibble. I normally use the topocentric house
system. This system of house erection is almost identical to the Placidian
house system, but it varies slightly from the placidian for the house cusps
other than the Ascendant and MC. I find this house system to be extremely
accurate. Do you have have any programmes which generate these house cusps? I
would be very interested in obtaining it if you have. I would be obliged if
you would let me know.
Mike L o m b a r d
Ireland --- Monday, May 1, 2006 at 22:12 Universal Time
One correction with regard to the precession of the equinox. The axis about
which the earth rotates in a 24 hour period points to Polaris in the North
and not the ecliptic. It’s actually a line that is normal to the earth’s
axis which is moving backwards through the zodiacal circle due to the wobble
of the axis and is currently pointing to early Pisces/late Aquarius.
Kent T o l l e y
Long Beach, CA, USA --- Monday, May 1, 2006 at 17:29 Universal Time
