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Astrodienst Online Feedback Area Archive September 2001


Guten Tag,
ich wende mich an Sie, in der Hoffnung, mehr über den Aspekt Neptun und Pluto zu erfahren, insbesondere den synthetischen. Welche Qualitäten birgt dieser Aspekt? Ich habe festgestellt, dass sich dieser Aspekt durch mehrere Generationen hindurchzieht. Welche Rückschlüsse können z.B. daraus gezogen werden? Vielen Dank.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Daniel

Daniel [ mon.dieugmx.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Berlin, Deutschland --- Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 20:51 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Bitte besuchen Sie eine astrologische Buchhandlung oder eine Biobliothek, oder lesen Sie Thomas Ring's Astrologische Menschenkunde online. Liz Greene hat auch ein hervorragendes Buch über Neptun geschrieben, und Ihre Buchhandlung wird es gerne besorgen.



I wonder why it is not possible to save the wonderful astrocharts after having them constructed on your webpage. I would love to save them on a diskette and take them to the office for printing. Can you advise me on this?

Also, how to access BCE ephemeris, that is, those before the common era? I am doing some biblical research and the time scale takes me beyond your 700 yrs printable ephemeris you most generously provide on the Net. I know of no websites that provide BCE data. Please help!

KIndest regards, Cjuan

S T Kuo [ cjuan28hotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia --- Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 15:03 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: To save an image, click on it with the right mouse button and use 'save as'. Give the image a file name ending with ".gif"

For details on date entry, please click on the [i]nfor button in the data entry form besides the date field. It will tell you more.



Like the site,but why doesn't theastro-clickportion of the free horoscopes do anything when I click on the drawing,ever?All the others work fine.

scott sweeney (visiting www.astro.com)
hornby island, canada --- Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 03:36 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: If you have disabled Javascript, the AstroClick charts will not work.



Is Alois really going to write/author a book about astrology? Maybe, he could call it 'Astrology,Physics and the Science of Life'. I WILL buy a copy....new..if he EVER writes an astrology book. (The coyotes are howling like crazy this time of year in Western Canada....you don't have coyotes in Switzerland, DO YOU?)

AK AK AK YAK YAK YAK (visiting www.astro.com)
Canada, Canada --- Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 21:10 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you for your superlative website. Astro Travel is really great, but I miss a map for Asia. Is it possible to include one without going to a lot of trouble? Anyway, thanks again for your magnificent service

Jay Maywin [ kwanyinherbalshotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
vancouver, canada --- Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 19:27 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: There is a map for Asia. Even if there was not, the world map is absolutely sufficient. The space resolution of the astro-map technique is only about 200 miles, so there is nothing gained by high resolution maps.



I just wanted you to thank for this unbeliavable service you provide to the world comunity.
Since the first time i entered the website I use it everyday and have recommened it to may relatives, friends and people I like.

Gracias....from Buenos Aires

Pablo

Pablo Cura [ pablocurayahoo.com.ar ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Buenos Aires, Argentina --- Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 18:33 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Hallo!

Der Artikel von Liz Greene zum Terroranschlag ist wirklich Klasse!

Ihre astrologischen Ableitungen sind sehr spannend zu lesen.
Außerdem beeindruckt mich vor allem, wie ausgewogen und doch tiefgründig, differenziert und sehr deutlich sie den Umgang mit der ganzen Problematik betrachtet, und die Konsequenzen, die sie für unser aller verhalten nahelegt.

Ich habe Daten zum Terroranschlag gesammelt, und habe dort zu diesem Artikel und einigen Grafiken Links gesetzt ( http://www.astrothek.de/ )
Vielen Dank!

Liebe Grüße,
Cornelia.

Cornelia [ cornelia.salvatogmx.de ] (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 10:11 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you indeed for providing this wonderful web site!!

God'dess bless you all.
Lia

Lia (visiting www.astro.com)
LA, USA --- Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 05:23 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I would like to know if you have a DOB for Osama bin Laden. Just thought I ask. Otherwise I just love your site.

Thanks loads.

Nilsa Martinez [ nilsa.martinezweil.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
New York, USA --- Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 00:16 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Alois, thank you for taking the time to answer my feedback. It was not my intent to be discourteous or rude, nor is it my intent to convert your fine service into something other than what it is. Your ephemeris stands out as an easy-to-use, reliable source of accurate information. Two thumbs up.

Michael Patrick [ ireadicculushotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Arcata, CA, USA --- Friday, September 28, 2001 at 18:52 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank´s for a great webpage-I was doing some half serious research using the asteroid tables yesterday-and in my personal horoscope the asteroid Monica lands exactly on my Sun/Neptune midpoint asteroid Andersen on my Mars/Chiron midpoint. I first took up astrology in 1975 and its still my favourite companion.
Have a wonderful autumn.
Monica Andersson

Monica Andersson [ monandersonhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
London, England --- Friday, September 28, 2001 at 06:24 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Ich habe das Gefühl, die Texte der täglichen Horoskope wiederholen sich ständig, schon vor ein paar Monaten sowie letztes Jahr hatte ich die gleichen Texte, vorallem diejenigen, die jeweils grad für ein paar Wochen oder Monate gültig waren.

Wie kommt das?

Priska (visiting www.astro.com)
, Schweiz --- Friday, September 28, 2001 at 06:00 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Wenn die gleichen Transite auftreten, so kommen die gleichen Texte. Die Beschreibung eines bestimmten Themas hat allgemeine Gültigkeit, und wenn dieses Thema wieder aktuell wird, so kommt wieder diese Beschreibung.



Hallo,
schöne Seite, aber kann mir jemand erklären,
warum ich beim Partner-Komposit auf dieser Seite 2 unterschiedliche Horoskope erhalte - je nachdem, welcher Partner zuerst eingegeben wurde?

Gruß

Wiesel [ Wiesel44hotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Friday, September 28, 2001 at 05:36 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Weil Sie 'Wiesel' zweimal eingegeben haben, einmal mit falschen Daten (geboren 2001). Vermutlich haben Sie die falschen Daten bei dem einen Horoskop verwendet, beim anderen die richtigen. Gehen Sie bitte zu 'my Astro' und löschen Sie die falschen Daten.



Just a little note regarding your use of the English language: I have noticed in some of your daily forecasts lately the erroneous use of the term half-cocked. You continually refer to going off half-cooked. The correct term is going off half-cocked, ie. as in a gun going off before it has been fully set to be fired. This term usually refers to someone losing their temper without thinking things through too clearly. Half-cooked refers to food that is still partially raw in places.
I love your website, your forecasts and your lovely natal charts. Keep up the good work!

Danielle De Lucca [ starbritejps.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Seattle, USA --- Friday, September 28, 2001 at 00:51 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Thanks for pointing out this error. Robert Hand's original text in 'Planets in Transit' has 'half-cocked'. It was probably changed by our editor when the shortened descriptions for the daily horoscope were created. I have corrected it. I wonder how many of our readers will understand the term 'half-cocked'. Our editor obviously did not.



I am glad to have finally gotten some personal attention. My requests for the addition of the Planetary Hour to your ephemeris didn't receive any, so I figured I'd show off a bit. Please, I am having the greatest trouble calculating a table that will accurately tell me which planet is ruling the current hour for Horaries. I am sure I am not the only chap who looks to this site for answers to questions. Can you put in a word to the programmers on my behalf???

Michael Patrick [ ireadicculushotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Arcata, CA, USA --- Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 20:12 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: As I am the main programmer here, your word has already arrived. You will have noticed that horary is not exactly in high esteem at Astrodienst, we do not understand or practise it. It is unlikely that you will find support for horary among our services any time soon. I recommend you get yourself some PC software which does what you need.



I am currently doing a few charts for friends who have had children recently. The two grand trines located in there leave me with the feeling I'm missing something.
What is the significance of a grand trine,and how often do two happen in the same chart?

Melissa [ mhdurrinhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
, USA --- Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 15:11 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Finally got around to reading Liz Greene's analysis of the September 11th tragedy. I found it very well written and soothing to the soul. It was also great to see George Bush's chart/progressed chart out for all to see. I had heard that he had a 12th house sun...I hope that he does not become a 'victim', rather, that he chooses to serve others in a selfless way. I also would love for US officials to get a chance to read this analysis. Any way to leak the article, to say, the Wall Street Journal? Just a wishful thought....
This sight is fantastic!

Triskana Rubiole [ rubioleyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Holland, MI, USA --- Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 00:26 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



THANKS FOR THE CHART
I HAD A PROBLEM IDENTIFYING WHAT IT ALL MEANS ON YOUR PAGE

CHAOS (visiting www.astro.com)
, USA --- Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 21:43 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I just want to say how much I like your site.
I am the eternal doubter, I doubt everything, including astrology, but.........I cannot help liking reading your wonderful daily texts, that, If you believe or not, just gives such a positive view of life, it is a nice little thing to take into your life. I read it every day, and so does lots of friends of mine, after my showing it to them !
thank you for all the thoughts you have given me
VB, Paris, France

Viveka [ vivivillenoos.fr ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Paris, France --- Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 18:53 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I found your article on the terrorist attack very interesting. I thought it was well done.
would be great if our world leaders could read it.

Patricia Machen (visiting www.astro.com)
Folsom, USA --- Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 18:00 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



swe compiles and swetest runs fine under MacOS X !

Kip Knight [ NewtsPrismaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Colorado Springs, USA --- Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 17:03 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



A look at G.W. Bush's Natal chart shows that 2004 is going to be ... [ content blanked out by webmaster. Please use this area for feedback related to our website, not as a forum for your own astrological art however interesting that topic may be.]

Michael Patrick [ ireadicculushotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Arcata, CA, USA --- Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 15:07 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



where can i learn to read the natal chart please?

david [ davinchinyaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Thornwood, USA --- Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 23:43 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Is there a sign out button on your wonderful site? I read my daily info on a college library computer and anyone can access my file by highlighting the address I used to get onto your site. Please advise !

MaryPat [ mpdoodlesaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
San Antonio, TX, USA --- Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 19:56 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Please use the 'my astro' page features.



Thanks very much for your artical in the events of september 11, but after seeing the horoscope of President Bush I wondered what would be the Horoscope of Bin laden, searching on the web I found out he is born on 30 juli 1957,but allas no clue on his birth place or time,however the 30th of juli 1957 showes a saturn pluto square!! (in combination with venus ,mercury and mars!!!) and a transiting neptune to the sun and I just hope that by the time this transit is over Mr Bin Laden is saurely dissapionted with the outcome of his ideologies, if you have investicated this topic or have thoughts about it please write

anna [ smartheart-xxhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
amsterbdam, the netherlands --- Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:44 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you Liz for a brilliantly accurate relationship horoscope. You were able to articulate both conscious subconscious issues in the relationship with true clarity. Your insight is beyond expectations! I have read the horoscope a dozen times each time I absorb something new. How on earth do you do it?

Natasha Kastropil (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:40 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thanks to Liz Greene for her writing on the USA terrorist attack.
If you have the opportunity could you comment
on the following.
At the same time as this horrific event in the USA, one of two major Australian airlines (Ansett) financially collapsed leaving thousands without work, many more stranded short and long term, and all their planes grounded.
I realise this in no way reflects the tragedy in the USA, but found the similarities ie airline/planes/endings thought provoking.

Mrs Blackburn (visiting www.astro.com)
, Australia --- Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:24 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Your site was the first to introduce me to the concept of the composite chart, and although I find it illuminating in some respects there is one majore flaw that needs to be pointed out. Granted the aspect interpretations are general and are parts of the whole, the composite chart offers so many contradictory interpretations that it may render your composite chart illegitimate. From the composite chart that I did one planetary aspect will indicate a relationship bound tightly, but then with another planetary aspect it will say quite the opposite. The composite chart is different from synastry, (isn't it?) and I'm wondering if Astrodienst could make a synastry service. Once again, great site.

Jerry (visiting www.astro.com)
Olympia --- Monday, September 24, 2001 at 22:36 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



There is technical problem with my account. I should be listed as a registered user - email: manushevayahoo.com, password: omshanti. Somehow i've lost my registration and all of the birth dates I had on file. According to the info you are presently showing for my account I can have only four dates on file.
Please notify me and correct this error as soon as possible.

Thank you,
Manu Dawson

Manu Dawson [ Manushevyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
New York, USA --- Monday, September 24, 2001 at 16:47 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Use the my astro page to login to your other account.



Thank you so much for posting Liz Greene's analysis and commentary on the events of September 11. I found this to be a model of analysis from the perspective of psychological astrology.

Also, and at least as significantly, I feel ths is a model of a sound and balanced moral and philosophical perspective on these events and how each of us can come to terms with them personally.

She, and you, do the world a great service by offering these thoughts at this challenging time.

Sincerely,

Jim Guinness

Jim Guinness [ jmgatlanticwinds.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Natick, MA --- Monday, September 24, 2001 at 15:14 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you for the 'astrologial perspective'
on the events of 9/11. It helps to stand back and take a good long look--especialy an astrological look. Nothing makes it better, but with understanding, hopefully our next steps will help, notmake the situation worse.

Rebecca [ RebeccaagentR.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Lititz.PA, USA --- Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 22:01 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I read your site every moring and am pleased with the insighs that are found on your pages!

I am moving to Dublin, Ireland in the coming winter/early spring and could not find the astro sign of that country. Knowing that each has its own sign. What is it?
I appriciate any feed back that you can give me.
Thank you.

Amy [ amyesteeleaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Santa Fe, USA --- Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 06:22 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Astrogeography is a somewhat questionable area of astrological lore. After all, there are only 12 signs but about 200 countries. I do not know which one is assigned to Ireland.

I have asked my friend Hans Taeger, a highly intuitive astrologer living in Ireland. He assigns Sagittarius, representing Irelands spiritual potential.



I am confused... What is the difference between the house # listed in the Planetary Positions section of my report vs. under the House Positions(Placidus) section and which ones are used for the wheel/chart drawing?

For example, the Planetary Position section states: Sun in Gemini in 12th house, but under the House Positions it states: 12th House Taurus. Also, in the Planetary Positions section some houses have multiple occupants while others houses are vacant vs. the House Positions section which has a single occupant in each of the 12 houses.

I'm not looking for an interpretation of the placements, I am just confused about the differing house #s. I did read through your intro to astrology, but I haven't the answer yet. It seems that the more I learn about astrology the more confused / dangerous I get!!

There is sooooo much to learn. Thank goodness you have taken so much of the work off our shoulders with your web site!

Leslie (visiting www.astro.com)
California, USA --- Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 22:41 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: If you LOOK AT THE CHART you will see that houses and sign do NOT COINCIDE. A house may begin in Taurus but will extend to some part into Gemini (possibly even into Cancer) and a Gemini Sun may be in that house.

The 'house position section' is a list of 12 house cusps. Whether anything is IN THE HOUSES does not depend on the location of the houses but on the positions of the planets which are totally independent.

As a more familiar example: Your own home will probably have a kitchen, a living room and a sleeping room. The postion of those rooms can be located on a map of the building. Wether anyone is in a particular room at any given time does not depend on the layout of your living space but on the behaviour of its inhabitants.



Gutten Herbstanfang!!!!

Ariel W. Pulvur [ arielwaschpulvur.aol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
La Mesa, USA --- Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 20:08 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Your article on the terrorist attacks of the USA was exceptional. Thank you for your reasonable approach. It has helped me immensely in tempering my thoughts and feelings about the whole thing.

Caryn Smith (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 18:30 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I just wanted to thank you to Liz Greene for the article on the attacks. It was written in truth. I am an amateur to astrology but at least it gives me insight as to whats to come. I love this site and thank you all for work well done. In hopes of world peace. God Bless you all. Irene

Irene [ hireneadelphia.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Port St. Lucie, USA --- Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 18:12 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I'd love it if you would include Declinations in your chart service!

Rick Lowe [ rlowe30yahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
New Orleans, USA --- Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 16:47 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Really nice service but I find it strange that you don't ask for state. Time zone area isn't very clear. My report should have been for California but was for Alabama instead. I believe that might make a difference in the reading. Thanks anyway though.

Margaret (visiting www.astro.com)
Oakland, U.S.A. --- Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 04:18 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: You need to select your birth down from the pulldown list which apears after the first entry.



Dear Liz.
Gracias por brindarnos la oportunidad de nutrirnos de tu conocimiento y el de tu equipo a traves de esta maravillosa vía sin fronteras.
estoy muy emocionada de saber que tu leeras este mensaje. Soy estudiente de astrologí, y estoy plenamente convencida ede que es la mejor vía para el auto y hetero conocimiento.
POR FAVOR DENNOS LA OPCION DE TRADUCIR ESTA EXCELENTE PAGINA WEB AL ESPAÑOL, pues aun cuando entiendo un poco el inglés, ¡¡¡pues, somos latinos. Gracias de todo corazon.

Chao amore!!!!!

Norelys Lopez [ norelyslopezunete.com.ve / urantia1122*hotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Porlamar, Isla de Margarita., Venezuela. --- Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 01:15 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



[deleted by webmaster]

Gemini Man (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 22:32 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: This guestbook is for feedback to Astrodienst's website. I am not having a discussion here about the content of another site.



Dear Alois, thank you and Liz Greene for your sensitive extra efforts for our benefit. Is it possible for you to update your atlas to include coordinates for Jeddah, Saudi Arabia? I have found them to be 39E10, 21N33.

May God bless us, Everyone.

Sincerely, Sherri

Sherri [ sisterbellabeeaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Oregon, USA --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 18:16 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



HOLY that is Peace 09-21-2001 10:51am pdt Friday Astrography is wonderful. Is there other services on the internet doing with study, such as the position of a daily planet and its aspects, house, sign and other studies such as mid points and how this info. is derived that gives that kind of definitions. I noticed a few months ago or so other Astrodienst services where available, mayby at different web site. Thank you. HOLY that is Peace.

Holian [ UrVegannetscape.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Arcata, U.S. --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 17:58 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I just want to say, besides the fact that Liz Green is phenomenal, that I did the same chart for 8:45 and then heard from one of the military, perhaps Colin Powell, state that the attack actually took place at 8:48 AM. I personally find that chart (8:48) much more appropriate for what occurred. Differences in house cusps plus house positions of Mercury and Pluto make major differences and convinced me that 8:48 is the correct time. Regardless, any interpretation by Liz Green is a wonderful astro lesson to me. I would like to see what she thinks of the later time. Thanks, S. Kane

Sandra Kane [ sandrakanemindspring.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Bosque Farms, US --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 17:45 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Thanks for the feedback. Strangely, several times go around, between 8.43 to 8.48, but for the chart this makes really so little difference that it is not relevant (try it out yourself). It is kind of surprising that the precise timing of the first hit is not better known.



Liz Greene is hoping that Bush might be the right president in the current climate. So do I.
Unfortunately ten days after the criminal attack,
his only answer towards crime is WAR, WAR, WAR, applaused by the full congress.
Probably exactly what the terrorists were aiming for: the collapse of the western social and economical system.

cram v [ cramvyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
, belgium --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 14:13 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you many many times for the bounty of delightful and accurate information you offer at Astrodienst!!

I love all the free charts, as well as the interactive astology options, and was trying them out today. I was a little amused and chagrined to see that the entry for twelfth house Sun included this advice, however:

Sun in the Twelfth House

. . .You are urged to make an about face and confront your own accumulated history. Take some time for introspection. It may result in a purification process accompanied by some remorse of conscience.

I don't know if it's all due to my twelfth house Sun, but I'm about as introspective as they come, myself. The thought of being encouraged to examine myself as though it was a novel activity made me smile. Perhaps I have some unusual perspectives of the twelfth house. I'm happy to say there are some positives to the twelfth house placement, as I realize your staff agrees.

I do wonder, though, about whether the above suggestion will ring as useful for the majority of those with twelfth house Sun. We tend to be very well aware of our own inadequacies! Those who are in early stages of spiritual evolvement will probably feel, along with this inadequacy, that they are at the mercy of forces far larger than themselves, and thus, despite introspection, will probably fail to identify areas of remorse of conscience.

Our culture does not seem to incline us to appreciate the validity of our tininess, our lostness, in comparison to the infinite. As I see it, the challenge of the twelfth house Sun is not to identify areas of remorse of conscience, but rather to define our individual interests, to determine to act, and to be accountable for ourselves despite the immensity of infinite forces completely beyond our control. These actions require courage, and overwhelming feelings of remorse (in the twelfth house, they will be overwhelming, take my word for it!), however appropriate, do little to bolster courage.

I smile to reflect that as we mature, our life processs permits us to experience so many situations that will help us clearly identify with those who have Sun placements unlike our own. The phase of life echoed by the Twelfth House Sun, however, is not entered in a conscious, living state! A little difficult for most of us mortals to gain an Ah, now I see! perspective of Sun in the twelfth, unless from the other side. I guess that's one reason I consider the twelfth house to be the most poorly understood in the Zodiac.

I appreciate being offered this opportunity to provide feedback on your site. Overall, the site is the best on the internet! I reccommend it to all my friends. And you even let me tell you when (in the rare instance) I do disagree, so thanks again to the Astrodienst staff.

With warm regards,

Pam

Pam Richards [ spirlhelixyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Cincinnati, USA --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:20 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Some say the real power in this administration is Dick Cheney. He was born January 30, 1941. As we all know, 1941 was the year of the Pearl Harbor attack. The U.S. president at that time was Franklin Roosevelt, born January 30, 1882.

I expect Cheney to prosecute this war as successfully as Roosevelt steered America through World War II.

Siegfried Duray-Bito [ sduraybitoaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Denver, CO, USA --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:59 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Sun in the Twelfth House

The Sun, the king of this celestial system, was in your twelfth house at the time of birth. This may indicate a life full of limitations, obstacles, and human opposition.

You are urged to make an about face and confront your own accumulated history. Take some time for introspection. It may result in a purification process accompanied by some remorse of conscience.

Internally, you are quite different from the way you present yourself externally. You possess a vast reservoir of energy that may be partially hidden even from your own awareness.

Your internal disposition is strong, commanding, open, and of a rare generosity. More and more you should try to bring these characteristics into the open so that they can overcome some of the less desirable aspects of your personality.

Pam Richards [ spirlhelixyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Cincinnati, USA --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:24 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Many thanks to Liz Greene for publishing her enlightened perspective on this significant and world shaking event. Her depth and insight are healing and inspiring at a time when there is a tendency to hysteria and fear. I feel her point of view is based on her experience and wisdom regarding history and human nature. Thank you Liz for all of your mant contributions to the world. Sincerely, E.D.

elaine (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 08:04 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Vielen Dank für das persönliche Horoskop mit Charakteranalyse das ich bestellt und erhalten habe.
Ich bin verblüfft über die Übereinstimmungen und froh das es sehr sensibel verfasst ist. Ganz anders als ich erwartet habe.
Vielen Dank!

A. Mülfarth [ Muelyt-online.de ] (visiting www.astro.com)
56237 Alsbach, Deutschland --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 05:55 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



BRAVA, LIZ GREENE!! VERY INFORMATIVE AND
THOROUGH. THANK YOU.

Helene (visiting www.astro.com)
Sacramento, California, USA --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 04:10 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I must say that I am also a bit disappointed in Liz's analysis.

The planets are not merely symbols of events unfolding on Earth. They are the timing forces to which all cyclical activity on this planet is synchronized.

The only chart which shows with any degree of accuracy what happened in New York on Sept 11th is the one for the time of the event. A hidden enemy (12th house, ruled by Mercury), from overseas (9th house also ruled by Mercury), crashed (Saturn, in the 9th house of long distance travel) airplanes into 2 buildings (Ascendant).

Overlooked previously, Jupiter (ruler of the 3rd house of media and communication, and 6th of the nation's military, squares the ascendant from the 10th of the nation's leader) he is in Cancer, the sign of his exaltation. The Part of Fortune is also in the 10th house.

It is this astrologer's opinion that the current military action taking place in America is an excuse for the president to divert taxpayer funds towards a larger defense budget. He is goading gullible Americans into a wild goose chase to rid the world of evil-doers. That is a quote from a recent speech. rid the world of evil-doers. C'mon! That is something more appropriate for D.C. Comics than for an American President.

I have been watching T.V. for the first time in months, and am appalled the the government's only concern is retaliating against an unknown assailant, rather than providing relief to the families of those injured and killed in the crash. American T.V. is saturated with stories of the efforts made by children to raise money to aid those affected by the crash, while the government is speaking of nothing but war.

George W. Bush is a war-monger, just like his father. May they both get exactly what they deserve, and may the innocents be spared. Jah bless the children. Om. Love and Light.

Michael Patrick Smith III [ ireadicculushotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Arcata, CA, USA --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 03:27 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



A very poor writeup on WTC: USA chart and G W Bush.A lot of verbiage with nothing worthwhile said.
When i see work like this i feel sorry for the astrological profession.
Liz Greene should *study astrology and forget her so-called psychological theories.
please do not call yourself an astrolger.

from: PLUTO : Stellar Astrologer

henry Jackson (visiting www.astro.com)
, England --- Friday, September 21, 2001 at 00:07 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



First of all, thanks to Liz Greene for the analysis of the WTC attacks. Well written and designed to calm down overflowing negative emotions. It helped me in a way.

It would probably be interesting to try analysis of the Taliban regime. Per my research it was September 27, 1996, when they took over Kabul. Does anyone have more detailed/more exact/better information? Any help is appreciated.

Oh, yes, and thanks for this great site! I am using for quite some time now...I practically don't use any other software any more - for real studying, I am rather using books, and everything a computer can do for me is provided here...This is just excellent!

Eleonore [ Alix2404gmx.de ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Frankfurt, Germany --- Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 23:36 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Welche Orben liegen den Online-Transithoroskopen und den Transitkalendern zugrunde? -- Danke, schöne Grüße -- hpr

hpr (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 21:15 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Many thanks to Liz Green for her analysis of the current transits, which is thoughtful, accurate, and touches the bigger issues with the depth of understanding characteristic of her work. To maintain an objective approach with such emotive material is a tribute to her talents. One can only hope that as one country rides off into the sunset holding a Wanted, Dead or Alive poster, that the rest of the world will temper the approach with some Geminian intelligence. The opposition of Pluto and Saturn has brought more than the current terrorism. Global warming is escalating to crisis level following our abuse of our environment. (Pluto, the vengeful face of mother nature) and unless ALL countries are prepared to be involved in the control of greenhouse gasses, we will undoubtedly see more places in which a desert war can be fought. This includes my own country Australia, which is right up there with outputs, and also United States which refused to be part of the last international attempt to curb the emissions. God Bless America indeed! God bless the Planet!

Anita Kay (visiting www.astro.com)
, Australia --- Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 06:23 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Your analysis of Sept. 11 has been invaluable. Congratulations and thanks for your generosity, expertise and good will.

Totally amazing. Totally synthesized.

In keeping with everything I've seen and been grateful for on this web site - a perfect blend of art, technology and wisdom - both in terms of web design and astrology.

Let me thank you finally (for I feel guilty for not having thrown accolades your way earlier) for providing this oasis of form and meaning.

I continue to direct people in search of good astrological advice your way.

I hope this marvellous port of astrogical wisdom, which I feel embodies the highest manifestation of the web, both in design and content , will always flourish.

If you foresee some time in the future when you are unable to sustain this port - which I so gratefully return to each day - please notify me in advance, in the hopes that in my small way, I could more passionately direct people to take advantage of your services.

Ellen [ ellenmailhome.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Toronto, Canada --- Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 00:11 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Ellen, I am very grateful for this excellent feedback. It makes us all feel good. Thank you.



I enjoyed Ms. Green's analysis of the WTC/Pentagon disasters, but was wondering why she used a Sagittarious ascendant for the USA? I have always known it to be in Scorpio.

Ron [ rdennieaustin.rr.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Austin, Texas, USA --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 21:17 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: You may claim to 'know' that (were you present at the declaration?), but even as a Scorpio you might have to tolerate other opinions about this.



Thank you so much for your wounderful service. I greatly appreicaiate it.

Peggy Petras-Ames [ nehespacbell.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Belmont, California, USA --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 19:44 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Any comments about the fact the moon was moving to elipse Jupiter at the time of the attack? Jupiter was exactly on the USA's sun at 13 degrees Cancer. Does this symbolize eclipsing protection? Will this mean we'll continue to be vulnerable every time a planet transits this eclipse degree?

Rosada [ Rosadanolanyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Berkeley, USA --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 15:58 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Liz, I read your comments with interest, particularly your wonderful finishing prose concerning the Saturn/Pluto opposition. I find it significant that in the last 2000 years, this opposition occurred along the Gemini/Sagittarius axis twice, once at 29-30 A.D. and also at 1266-1267. Obviously the 29-30 A.D. period represented possibly the greatest religious change in human history and 1266-67 also marked major turmoil with regard to the Crusades. So we are in heady times, indeed, certainly to be focused over the coming year as the current series of oppositions play out.

Siegfried P. Duray-Bito [ sduraybitoschneidersecurities.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Denver, CO, USA --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 15:35 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



the chart program did not allow me to put the name of my city in,which is Jacsonville, florida. It's very possible that I don't know what I'm doing, however.

patrick giles [ patrickgileshotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
, usa --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 15:30 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: You are right, you really don't know. Why don't you think for a second about your spelling. Even from very far away, Jacksonville looks much more likely to me.



I would like to thank you for having this wonderful site. We enjoy it. When it is down from michanical problems. I get worried that it will be gone forever.
Appreciatively, Sandy

Sandy Del Toro [ bzeraccoonaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 13:54 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Me adhiero a los mensajes de solidaridad con los EE.UU y su pueblo. Sin embargo, quiero hacer recordar que la brutal política exterior de este pais debe hacer reflexionar tambien cuando produzca otras victimas. DEbemos presionar a los EE. UU para que luche por la verdadera paz y la negociación entre los pueblos. Cuando se negocia, todos pierden, pero todos ganan, y todos ceden. El que no recuerda su historia está condenada a repetirla y la venganza es como el agua salada, cuanto más se bebe más sed se tiene.EE.UU. y Ben Laden es como la historia de Cronos comiendose a sus hijos. ¿No es así Liz?. Un abrazo. Marga Ibáñez

marga [ johnconorhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
bilbao, Euskal Herria --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 13:05 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I need help writing out my charts! (especially the ascendant!)
Can you explain?
Thankyou!

Genevieve [ water_dandytigerhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Canberra, Australia --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 11:28 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you very much for the article, Liz. Much appreciated.

Pamela Young (visiting www.astro.com)
Guelph, Canada --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 09:49 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Dear Liz,
Thanks for the interpretation. It can only help the profession to have such an example of both scholarly work and compassionate insight. It also shows newcomers (who stumble via 'pop' astrology onto this site) what a great tool for personal and global understanding, astrology can be, illuminating minds and hearts like candles lighting all across the world. thanks

dhiresha chapman [ dhireshahotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
perth, australia --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 09:19 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Message from webmaster

Our web server could not be reached from most parts of the world during the last 10 hours. Our Internet provider KPNQWEST, where our server farm is located, had created a configuration problem when they set up a filter last night in an attempt to defend against the scanning activities of the recent NIMDA worm.

Everyone seems to be nervous these days.

Now in the morning they have finally fixed this filter defense problem (which was the cause, not the worm itself) and our server can be reached again.

I apologize for the inconvenience many users have experienced when they found www.astro.com not responsive.

I thank all those who sent us emails reporting our server down. There was nothing we could do during the night, though we tried to alert KpnQwest to the problem.

Update at 13:45: The filter problem at KpnQwest seems to be solved now. completely

Alois [ webmasterastro.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Zollikon, Switzerland --- Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 06:36 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I just wish to congratulate you on your excellent article on the NYC terrorism. It was balanced, well written and thought-provoking as well as readable by astrologer and non- astrologer alike. Thank you

Amanda Williams [ awilliamsmedimedia.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Hoboken, USA --- Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 19:01 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds:Thank you. For those who did not see the link from the homepage: The article is here



Ms.Greene and those at Astrodienst who make this web site possible: I truly appreciate your insight, comments and actually what I believe to be a sage's interpretation of the events of September 11 I appreciate them even more because I am one of those persons who is quite intuitive and was quite burdened with visions and other Neptunian happenings that I did not understand I appreciate and agree that no one could have predicted this as it was a matter of free will Thank you for your insight it is not only refreshing, but hopeful and we need all of the hope we can get right now. God Bless.

marianne (visiting www.astro.com)
, USA --- Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 17:48 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Studying astrology, and using both your site, and other software, it occured to me that my birth-time may be off by a few minutes. I'm wondering if there is a way to calibrate'? Sometimes I notice the stronger astrological influences at times other than when specified. Suggestions?

Drew [ drewzhrodague.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Boston, US --- Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 16:47 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



yeah, thats exactly what a professional astrologe
said to me.
t.a.g.

thomas-günter siegmund [ gg.arjunaweb.de ] (visiting www.astro.com)
bremen, germany --- Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 13:06 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



New Astro Shop
I am happy to announce that we have just released
the new shop software on our server. Now it is
possible to order all Astrodienst products via
the Astro-Shop, and there is a proper shopping
cart system.

Alois Treindl [ webmasterastro.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Zollikon, Switzerland --- Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 10:34 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Pluto is in transit over the US ascendant in 13° Sagitarius: a direct conjunction in December 2000 (election of Bush), retrograde in July 2001 and finally again direct in September 2001 (US attack).
The same sharp transit for two different (?)events. Or two tragedies?
There must be a link between both.
A link between the Gulf war, Bush Sr., Bush Jr. and Sept.11?

cram v [ cramvyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 07:47 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



OK, my mistake, it's not 1000 monkeys, neither is it 100 monkeys (the hundredth monkey syndrome is another factor refering to a species' supposed ability to instinctively learn what others of the species have learned). It's an infinite number of monkeys. Here's the quote it was refering to:
At this point I would like to introduce to you what I call the Infinite Monkey's Principle. Let's say that I have aquired an infinite amount of monkeys and an infinite amount of typewritters or word processors (It doesn't matter). Of course, as far as we know that is impossible to do (Unless you buy factory direct from me--send 500 trillion dollars to me (gold bullion only, liquid assets are not negotiable) But I digress... If these Infinite Amount of Monkeys are allowed to bang out whatever they want on the infinite typewriter, one of them will produce the complete works of Shakespear
The article is about the number of Nostradamus quotes and that one of them is bound to fit any world event throughout history. The interesting thing is that the one currently circulating through email was not written by Nostradamus at all. See the article using the links I supplied, and all will become much clearer than I can explain with a quick note here.

Anita Kay (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 22:33 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



As a resident of New York and one who lives in Manhattan, I would like to express my heartfelt sympathies to those of us who have personally suffered from this manical attack against our country and innocent people. These events are beyond our worst imagination. In trying to place some perspective to this, I can only say that it makes me more aware of what is important -- namely family, friends, and neighbors. Let's harness our Martian energy and our Mercurian intellect to get thru these terrible times. I too wonder what Bin Laden's chart is like. I can only say that he is a messenger of death and must have planets and aspects that support this. May God Bless us All and Keep America and the free world safe from hate and evil.

ellen [ edmbiaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
New York, USA --- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 19:44 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thanks for your great site and effort to give such valuable information for free, it's a tribute to greater mutual understanding by itself. It's great to see that you share your love and wisdom with so many people. I wish that the events of 11/9 will lead to more gentle and loving forms of leadership, both in our personal lives and on a global level. The position of Venus in Leo raises hope that mankind will learn from this event and will make the effort to become a king over one's own thoughts and feelings and once again share love, peace and happiness as innocent children.

Wim Minten (visiting www.astro.com)
Eindhoven, Netherlands --- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 18:30 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Note: Saturn (impact) and the void Moon were in the ninth house (overseas) at the time of the attack, not in America's Natal chart. Also, Pluto and Mars were both in the third house of locality. Pluto (power control of big business *World Trade Center*) in Sagittarius (high places), and Mars (War, fire bloodshed) in Capricorn (political power and authority *Pentagon*). Also note, Mercury, rising during the assault, is ruler of both 12th (secret enemies) and 9th (overseas), as well as being dispositor of Saturn and the Moon, thus bringing their influence to bear on the Ascendant, as well.

Michael Patrick [ ireadicculushotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Eugene, OR, USA --- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 18:17 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



It is 100, not 1000 monkeys. Do a web search on hundredth monkey to learn more.

Cathie L. [ cool2kittyyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
California, USA --- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 17:03 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Eine sehr ausführliche Seite, auch für mich als Hobbyastrologin noch lesenswert.Gute Literatur-auswahl, bravo !

Diener,Christina (visiting www.astro.com)
Ssarbrücken, Deutschland --- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 16:54 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I was very interested to read about the bogus Nostradamus prediction. but what is the 1000 monkeys syndrome, i have looke don the website mentioned and it wasnt mentioned. Please help!!

Jules Welch (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 15:03 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I ordered 2 reports today, but not sure if order wen thru'.

Kindly check your records and advise.

Thanks.

Lene C. Nielsen [ lifeontehfarmyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Hong Kong, CHINA --- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 05:55 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Nostradamus: The email currently circulating has a quote from an article which was pointing out the universality of all predictions worded in symbolic language, the 1000 monkeys syndrome. The quote was not written by Nostradamus, but by the author as a demonstration of how a quote can be interpreted to fit any situation. You can see an article about the email at:
http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/xnostradamus.html
You can view the original quote at:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/info/analysis.htm

Anita Kay (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Monday, September 17, 2001 at 02:41 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Thanks for the references. I have edited out the original fake quote and removed the replies. I do not want to support the distribution of fear, based on false quotes.



Those interested in whether United States has a Gemini or Sagittarian ascendent could read Liz Greene's 'The Outer Planets and Their Cycles - The Astrology of the Collective'1983. Pages 113 to 114 outline her preference for Dane Rudhyar's 13 degrees Sagittarius ascendent, and her reasons bring illumination to the comments about religious fundamentalism and the problem of the Shadow. The book also has interesting material on Pluto/Saturn aspects, the Shadow, the Holocaust and the causes of war, particularly around pages 48 to 49.

Anita Kay [ willyburrowshotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Sydney, Australia --- Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 23:14 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I am trying to find my rising sign, can you help? 1/10/48 8:00 AM Fair Oaks, AR

Phyllis A. Silva [ Phyllissilaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Milpitas, USA --- Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 22:29 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I am relocating to Pennsylvania and have visited your astro travel section and did my families aspects. The way it seems the move is good for me but not for my kids I was wondering if their was a way to ease the negative aspects so my kids wont be so negatively affected. Please if anyone has any ideas let me know.

My prayers and heartfelt sympathies go out to all those who have lost someone they love in the trade center collapse.

Patti [ PattiAnd2000aol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 22:05 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I don't have a chart for the USA to work from, but I seem to remember it having a Gemini ascendant, and possbily Moon in Aquarius (?). Saturn is in Gemini at the time of the attack, in the 9th house of foreign affairs, trining Neptune and Uranus in Aquarius. Mercury is rising in Libra, in exact trine to Saturn. Mars has also just moved into Capricorn, after an extended stay in Sagittarius. Although he is exalted there (in Capricorn), I can't help but wonder if exaltation to Mars is the increased ability to bring about fires, bloodshed, and war. Certainly there is an unprecedented (as far as my 23 years have seen) flood of nationalism sweeping even the most liberal and tolerant reaches of the country. New Yorkers (already a course lot), must be in a militant frame of mind. Pray for peace as Mars transits Capricorn, and continue as he conjoins the heavy planets in Aquarius. These next three months will change the world.

Michael Patrick [ ireadicculushotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Eugene, OR, USA --- Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 21:55 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I was born sept 12 1944 in Viet-nam..my solar return is therefore sept 11..north american time.
Gloomy prospect that my real birthdate was on the day the WTC was attacked. Hope my coming year won't be to that image!

Michèle (visiting www.astro.com)
Montréal, Canada --- Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 20:46 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



For those who are interested in the saturn-pluto opposition, I recommend to visit the site of Maya del Mar at www.daykeeperjournel.com/ this is a superb site on consciousness awareness on astrology transformation, u will also find a whole list on Moon reports month by month which is very insightful to the happenings leading to the day of the Sept 11th.

susan (visiting www.astro.com)
brussels, belgium --- Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 09:52 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
von allen Astrologie-Webseiten, die ich angesehen habe finde ich Ihre am sinnvollsten, informativsten, übersichtlichsten und brauchbarsten.das ist kein scherz, ich meine das so. aber egal, ich finde es nur schade das manso viel daten über sich oder personen wissen muß um ergebnisse zu erhalten. was macht man wenn man geburtszeiten einfach nicht weiß? das würde mich halt schon interessieren. auch das man unterschiedliche aspekte erhält wenn man statt in hessen beispielsweise in hamburg geboren ist stimmt mich nachdenklich. sagt der ort der geburt wirklich soviel aus? nun gut. danke für diese seite die ich immer wieder gerne besuche.
ciao, a.m.

A. Mülfarth [ Muelyt-online.de ] (visiting www.astro.com)
56237 Alsbach, Deutschland --- Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 09:35 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



It would be great if you make a map and explain it on your website about the latest terrorist attack in USA.

Sahin Guler [ sahin_69yahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
San Juan, PR, USA --- Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 03:13 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I feel that the aim of the terrorists/fundamentalists is to incite a holy war and then mount more suicide attacks there is nothing they want more than to have the US send its precious youth into battle and death and waste its resources for better things. Let's not give them what they want let true justice prevail. Which is not to say turn the other cheek. I would also like to point out that Christian fundamentalists in this country seem to be happy about the prospect of holy war as well I saw some of them on local tv, certainly the comments by Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell sadly reflect views as extremely troubled and paranoid as any Islamic fundamentalist. They want Revelations to be a self-fulfilling prophesy, though blaming Godless homosexuals and liberals in the US instead of even more inflammatory rhetoric against Muslims seemed laughably polically correct. Again, let's not give fundamentalists of any stripe what they crave what with their chosen people and holy war. Talk about the Shadow indeed. I look forward to insightful comments by Liz.
Best to all and peace.

katie (visiting www.astro.com)
San Francisco --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 23:56 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I am very upset that I am unable to locate my venus sign. I purchased Handbag Horoscopes by Jessica Adams. She directs us to your site to find our venus sign. I am unable to find this link. My birthdate is November 21, 1978. Please help me with this promptly.
Thankyou
Andrea!

andrea [ asinghasfu.ca ] (visiting www.astro.com)
vancouver, canada --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 23:36 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Please got to Free Horoscopes -> chart drawing, and find your Venus sign (and the signs of all other planets in your chart) listed there. Alternatively, use 'AstroClick Love' and click on the Venus symbol.



I just read the feedback section and a number of people have mentioned Liz Greene's comments about the NYC disaster last Tuesday. I've looked for her statement, but haven't been able to find it. Where do I need to go to access it??
KK

Kate [ kateusc.edu ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Los Angeles, USA --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 23:07 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: It is on the Homepage. A longer article will follow on Monday.



Well, after reading Ariane Kristianson's post, I give up. I'm not saying another word on this subject.

Pamela Young (visiting www.astro.com)
Guelph, Canada --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 20:53 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



sie finden mich in ihrer kundenkartei.
ich habe schon viele gutachten von ihnen
bezogen. dieser hervorragend eingerichtete
internetdienst finde ich sehr sehr gut!
ungewöhnlich gut überschaubare seiten
für jeden benutzer, der nach nutzung hoffent-
lich auch ihr kunde wird. viele grüsse gs.

GÜNTER SIEGMANN (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 20:08 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: Danke für den Kommentar. Wir hoffen das auch.



You guys ARE joking of course.....where were all the messages of condolences to the innocents the USA has ruthlessly [... rest blanked out by webmaster]

Ariane Kristianson (visiting www.astro.com)
Wetaskiwin, Alberta, Canadian --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 19:28 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



For very different reasons, I recognise some of Marie Josephine's responses in myself. For 25 years, we in Britain have had horrific,terrorist acts inflicted on us by the IRA. Meanwhile, America allowed its citizens to fundraise for the IRA, made pap hollywood films which portrayed the IRA as lovable freedom fighters (if a little 'misguided') and gave Gerry Adams (our Bin Laden)a visa to enter your country, where pro-IRA senators grovelled round him and treated him like a hero.

anna brown [ annabrowniemail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
london, UK --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 19:23 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you for your message of sympathy. I am a fairly heavy user of Astrodienst and it meant a lot to me to see it. Astrodienst is a truly great service and a great gift to all astrologers whatever our level of understanding and practice may be. I hope with all my heart however my country responds to this attack it will be the right thing for all of humanity. Best regards.

Steve Beven [ spbevenhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Oak Creek, Co., USA --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 16:30 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you for Liz Greene's message. We await the findings you will share with us, and we appreciate your understanding. Again, thank you for this website and this service that is so helpful and meets such a need.

R. Wheeler (visiting www.astro.com)
Chattanooga, TN, USA --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 15:43 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Upon reading everyone's comments, since my last visit here, I know we are all concerned about what will come to be. I believe we all simply need to pray for the best outcome, for what will be is already scheduled...we can only hope it is ameliorated
as much as possible, and still do what must be done.

I wish to share this astrologically symbolic poem I wrote, with you, with wishes for a brighter tomorrow, where such is unnecessary.
_____________________________
TO THE PERPETRATORS
Over there, you conceived this
Malformed child of your hate,
And nurtured it to fruition,
Knowing- soon or late-
It would become your weapon
In cold revenge you say our debt.

Over here you ripped our loved ones,
Over here you scarred our towns,
Over here your tore out beating hearts
And gloated like Evil clowns.
Over here you tried to destroy us-
Well, you haven't done it yet!

No religion can sanction,
No dogma seek to approve
The Ugliness of your actions-
The true opposite of Love.
You have our very pity,
You have our strongest scorn-
From the depths of every city,
From hearts so long to mourn,
From the souls of every lost one,
From Angelic Voices on High.
No Deity claims what YOU have done
With your Whirlwind from the sky.

That you reap what you sow-
Oh, all religions agree...
Soon or late...Oh, soon or late...
YOU will reap- you'll see.

And, though the scars will stay among us,
Though the tears will not be dried,
In every city throughout our Land
Is a Spirit that cannot be denied.
I have seen it in its Flower-
I have seen its Honeycomb-
And you CANNOT destroy it-
This Land that we call Home.

You have FAILED - Can't you see?
We ARE- and always will be!-
This glorious,shining Land of the Free!

Dedicated to all who suffer, in gratitude for all who support us.
God bless the USA

Annaly (visiting wwx.astro.com)
USA, Reading --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 13:59 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Hallo there. Is there anyone born on the 27 of december 1976? or 27 of december in any year? Would like to get to know someone with the same birthdate as myself. Im also interesting in getting in contact with girls or women born in september, in the sign of virgo, because that is my favourite signs regarding women.

Christopher weidelman [ weidelmanhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 11:44 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



If you check out Lois Rodden's site, www.astrodatabank.com, you will find several dates given for the birth of Osama Bin Laden in the comments on the chart of the attack on the World Trade Center. The one most frequently given is July 30, 1957, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, but March 10, 1957, and April 7, 1957 are also given, with a time of seven PM for the latter. The March 10 date comes from the Interpol website, although in experimenting with them I found the April 7 date looked the most likely of the three. Of course, they could all be wrong.

Pamela Young (visiting www.astro.com)
Guelph, Canada --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 06:24 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Well, good luck to all of you who support Marie Josephine's statements from the looks of things (SATURN - PLUTO), you'll need it.

Pamela Young (visiting www.astro.com)
Guelph, Canada --- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 05:00 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



It is possible to have a horror for the dreadful catastrophe that has happened in New York, a great sympathy for the death and suffering, and a loathing of what could have allowed it to happen, without having to support the inevitable further slaughter we now all await. I support Marie Josephines statements - with our hearts we can feel the pain, but with our minds we can realise that this is all a manifestation of the seemingly inevitable conditions of physical life on earth (saturn, pluto etc) that seems to require pain, suffering, death and destruction. Astrology should lend us objectivity, as we have moved our view from our immediate surroundings into the solar system.Lets hope that the more objectivity, the less destruction there can be.

Sue Mooney (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 03:01 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Does ANYONE have any idea what month bin Laden was born in? I know he was born in 1958, but that's it.

Melissa [ mhdurrinhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 02:17 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I am looking for a health astrological report. I have looked at your offered products but I have not found a report like this

michele contino-soprani [ www.careingwordsjuno.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
West Chester, usa --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 22:31 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Please explain how your clock works - what number is 12:00 midnight

Thank-you

Ann Reiner [ qannieearthlink.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Milford, Michigan --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 21:56 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Miss Greene,

Thank you for your kind words for those of us here in America. All of us here on the West Coast of America cannot feel the pain in the same way that our East Coast neighbors do, but we feel the horror and our prayers are with them all.

I wouldn't wish this on any city in any country in the Universe. No one deserves to have this happen. God bless us all.

Jenni Sinclair [ jensinclairhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Portland, Oregon, USA --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 21:39 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I believe it is entirely appropriate, along with expressions of shock and grief, to speak of the Shadow. This has nothing to do with whether you happen to live in Australia, Canada, or the United States. The Jungian Shadow knows no national or ethnic borders. That is exactly the point, it is much deeper than that and it is about ALL of us. A chart drawn for 8:00 am on Sept 11 2001 shows a T-square with Saturn/Pluto opposed and Sun squarely between them. Jupiter is the cosmic trigger at 11 Cancer (150 degrees from Pluto.) All four elements are involved, 3 of the planets involved are in Mutable signs and the 4th (Jupiter) is in a Cardinal sign. The symbolism of the airplane flying like an arrow shot from Sagitarius the Archer's bow into the Twin towers of Saturn in Gemini is all too clear. This is an event of mythic proportions. Let us grieve, and let us pray for the birth of a new consciousness to arise from the ashes of this devastation.

Cathie L. [ cool2kittyyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Nevada City, USA --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 21:16 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you.

Olivia Russell [ Libcapital.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Albany, NY, USA --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 18:21 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



To Anita Kay of Sydney, Australia, with regard to your statement that Marie Josephine's comments were accurate and therefore it was difficult for the US to own its shadow: with all due respect to a fellow astrology buff, should Australia ever be attacked the way America was, God forbid, I wonder how fast you'd be to come out with that glib, supercilious and condescending comment.

Pamela Young (visiting www.astro.com)
Guelph, Canada --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 17:24 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I think this site is comprehensive, and after ordering a few reports, I have found them very helpful. I will look forward to the astrological analysis of the events in my country. Everyone wants some way to understand something this terrifying. I would also be interested if there were other periods in the history of the world with similar astrological positions and what happened during that time. Thank you for providing enlightenment and awareness to a world that needs it.

B. Johnson (visiting www.astro.com)
Fishers, USA --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 15:05 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I would like to take this opportunity to say that I really admire this site and it's accurate personal daily horoscopes, amazing!
Furthermore I want to send a message of love to everybody. To remind us all that there's no point in sending more agression and hatred into the world. Instead remember that every little positive action or thought contributes to the whole. Think something positive, help somebody or make someone a cup of tea. Why wait, now is always the best time. Together we CAN make a difference.

Anouk Brack (visiting wwx.astro.com)
Wageningen, Netherlands --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 14:28 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I am looking for friends born in 27 september 1976

radu [ corsatearyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
brasov, romania --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:54 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you Miss Greene for your sympathy and compassion directed towards my city for the horrible event which took place. I had to witness the whole thing from a ferry in the Hudson river as I was leaving The World Trade Center, It was a horrifying experience and no pictures or words can describe how brutal and horrifying this was. You had to see it in person to believe it. I thank you so much for your support and I would really like to see you post something in astrological reference to what was going on that seemingly beautiful morning until that occured. I myself drew up a chart for New York that day. One thing that was in it was the Sun squaring Pluto well what do you know Thank you again

Tyler [ typhoonlerflashmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
new york, usa --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:09 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I wish I had your generic e-mail address so as to send you Michael's Message, a verse I wrote on 09-11-2001. Please E-mail your e-mail address to me.
Anyway look at my research:
1. Interpretation of this Sept. 11th event. There are so many 6s and 9s in this chart. If you are a patriot, please research the following: On the Julian Calendar day 11-09-2001 or 24-09-2001 on the Gregorian Calendar. The terrorists' symbol or signature is: 24 / 9 / 3 or 6 / 9 / 3 or 15 / 3 or 6 / or 3x6 or 666. Know thy enemy fore he is religious, a master astronomer who goes by the Moon. Likewise we search for a terrorist's license plate number D79 DDV or 579 / 500 / 500 / 5 or 21 / 5 / 5 / 5 or 3 / 15 or 3 / 6 or 3x6 or 666. They will strike again and again with this ominous religious signature. Their MO will not change.
2. Maybe you are interested in Michael's message. I sent it to the U.S. President at 7:45 AM on the 12th. I interested send your e-mail address to me.
Cordially,
WJD

William J. Dougherty [ W_Doughertymsn.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Oviedo, U.S.A. --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:56 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



...i am looking for friens born on 12th of july 1949...please write me email

ie [ ingegerdiehotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
stockholm, sweden --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:00 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Would Liz Green care to comment on the Saturn/Pluto opposition currently sitting with Pluto firmly on USA ascendent and Saturn equally exactly on USA descendent. I have heard/read her material regarding Pluto/Saturn and its relevance to the psychological function of the Shadow. The comments made by Marie Josephine are quite accurate and therefore painful in that they raise the issue of the Shadow, which is never easy to accept or own. In this instance United States Shadow seems to be around the issues of 'Religious Fundamentalism' and 'Cowardly attacks from afar on innocent civilians'. The Plutonian content seems to be reflected in the statement we are hearing on CNN over and over 'Things will never be the same again.'

Anita Kay [ willyburrowshotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Sydney, Australia --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 02:26 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



In doing a chart for the day of 9-11-01, in lower Manhattan, I noticed there are two grand trines that I can't quite decipher due to a large mental block. Can anyone else lead me in the right direction there.
The other two main things I noticed were the oppositions between Mars and the Moon and Pluto and Saturn, very destructive, very cold and indicative of a war type atmosphere.

Melissa [ mhdurrinhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
, USA --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 02:06 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



this site is JUST GREAT!!!!!!!!!
My deepest thanks, and compliments..
Sil

Sil [ galadriel_74hotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
***, italy --- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 01:17 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I too wish to thank Liz Greene for her warm and supportive words. They meant a great deal to me at a difficult time. I live near New York and while, blessedly, none of my family were killed or harmed, a number of clients in my psychotherapy practice witnessed the attack. Their shock and trauma brought the stark reality of events more closely and personally home to me. What seems to bring me comfort these past few days is my feeling of connection with others who attempt to view these events through a broader spiritual and psychological lens. Those connections, even if brief or distant, even if from relative strangers, seem particularly precious right now. Your words, Dr. Greene brought some of that comfort to me and I just wanted to let you know how very much I appreciated them...and you for writing and sharing them.

Estelle Janiec, Ph.D. (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 22:52 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Dear Liz,
Thank you for your warm thoughts of sorrow .Your compassion just goes to prove that
that the evil forces in this world may destroy our buildings and kill some of our love ones but it wont crush our spirit of love for each other.And good will prevail evil.Thanks be to God!

Joann Lawlor (visiting www.astro.com)
Auburn, Ga --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 21:54 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I was touched today to read the comments by Liz Green on this site. It is meaningful to know that the world greives with us at this horrendous atrocity. We must all pray for peace and talk about it to those around us.

advocating peace may be our only hope, in a world such as this.

db
an american reader

db (visiting www.astro.com)
Charleston, WV, USA --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 21:21 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Dear Ms Green,
today my colleague drew my attention to this:

In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
Nostradamus 1654

... [rest of fake quote deleted by webmaster]

... I find it sounds rather startling. Is there anything in it?
Many people are afraid these times. All hope for the best.

Michiel van der Linden [ mwvdlindenwish.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Amsterdam, Netherlands --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 20:52 Universal Time (UT/GMT)

Alois adds: THIS IS A FAKE by people who like to distribute fear. Do not believe it. Do not fall for such nonsense. Nostradamus made no prediction in 1654. He was born in 1503 and died in 1566.

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Concerning the recent events, let us remember this: May we all grow in grace and peace and not neglect the silence printed in the center of our being. It will not fail us.

quote from Thomas Merton

Barbara (visiting www.astro.com)
NYC --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 20:21 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Does any one contacting Astrodienst regards data ,have any knowledge of the birthdate of the infamous terrorist leader Osama Bin Laden? If so I would greatly appreciate it , thanX , V'ketah

v'ketah [ vketah_vketahhotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
los angeles, usa --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 20:20 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Liz and Everyone at Astrodienst:

Thank you so much for your kind thoughts. We really are one world and that world is now forever deeply changed. My prayer is that we move forward with wisdom and compassion and right effort.

Again, thank you so much for your thoughts.

Nancy

Nancy Peden (visiting www.astro.com)
Nashville, Tennessee, US --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 19:51 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Ms Greene Astrodienst Family-
Thanks for your concern re the Sept. 11 disaster, and thank you for such a superior and free astrological site- I am a professional astrologer and find not only your site, but also your insights invaluable- Diana

Diana B [ Dianascopehotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Los Angeles, United States --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 18:52 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



As always, when I visit Astrodienst in order to find assistance in finding the Way for myself and others, you ARE one of the Lights in the Darkness. I was deeply touched by your compassionate words regarding the tragedy in my country of 9/11/01. We in the States are so often villified in other parts of the world, it is especially touching now, when we most need a helping hand, to see others in our global community who empathize with our National pain. Thank you...and Namaste'

Annaly [ mystinixaol.com ] (visiting wwx.astro.com)
United States, Reading --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 15:16 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Greetings and Good Day!
Blessings!

To Whom It May Concern.
I am looking for the astrological charts for
9/10/01 and 9/11/01 regarding what has happened
in our world. Please send this information to
the above stated email address.
Thank you for your time!

Be Safe and Be Well!

LLiam

LLiam Saums [ lliamsaumsaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Royal Oak, United States --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:04 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I always tought that people who does a work like yours,present in our daily lifes,must be very special and I confirmed that when I read yours comments about that horrible action in United States.
Thank you all !
.

zulma di lascio [ zrb44hotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
sao paulo, brasil --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:33 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



dear liz,

thank you for your message after
the n.y. disaster.it would be interesting to look at your global
planetary picture.
bodo

bodo l. [ bodolattglobal.net ] (visiting www.astro.com)
los angeles, u.s.a. --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:25 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Hello everybody !
i'm sad for the situation of the world actually...
therefore, the terrorists are cruels to do that.
Nevertheless, i search friends who were born on january 1985 (7 at 15h like me ): i've got an e-mail.
Bye bye
Alex.

Alex Barras [ ThomasFermiercaramail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Céret, France --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:22 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



My daily horoscope reads that Mercury is in the 10th house from 23 Aug. unti 28 Oct. then it reads that Mercury is in the 11th house from 13 Spt. until 14 November.... is this possible?

shezod (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:13 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Hallo, ist von WORLD OF WISDOM ein Demo verfügbar oder müsste man das Programm ungeprüft kaufen?

hpr

hpr (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:39 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



I'd like to add my thanks to Liz Greene and everyone at Astrodienst for their expressions of sympathy and concern over the recent horrific events in the United States. Having just read the recent Feedback comments, after not having surfed for a couple of days because of the terrible news, I personally feel it was the right thing to do, and only natural. I was shocked and upset when I read Marie Josephine's original comment. Yes, this is an astrological website, not a forum for political discussion, so kindly refrain from using it for imposing your personal political views on others, Marie Josephine. An expression of sympathy in the wake of an act of unprecedented inhumanity is not the same thing.

Pamela Young (visiting www.astro.com)
--- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:44 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



People outside the USA may not realize the significance of the selection of Tuesday's date for the terrorist attack - September 11 translates into 9/11 in the American way of writing dates, and 911 is the emergency number that people in the USA use to call for help, as people in Britain would call 999. From that point of view, the day of disaster is the result of cold-hearted, deliberate and chilling calculation that seems far removed from the influence of astrology.

sarah hobson [ sarhobsonaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
San Rafael, USA --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:12 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Hallo Astrodienst-Team,
hiermit möchte ich - da noch nicht online direkt bestellbar - gerne den Transitkalender Typ D 44 (Transit-Kalender aller Planeten ohne Mond mit Chiron für 6 Monate, nur starke Aspekte) für DM 16,- auf diesem Wege bestellen. Lieferadresse -wenn möglich- sollte meine Postfachadresse sein (Briefkästen wegen Renovierung zeitweise nicht zugänglich). Sie lautet:
Frau Juliana Siegler
Postfach 1532
65800 Bad Soden.
Rechnungsadresse ist dieselbe.
Der Transitkalender sollte beginnen ab Oktober 2001, Sprache Deutsch, Geburtstag 13.11.1976, 07:48 Uhr in Leonberg bei Stuttgart / Deutschland. VIELEN DANK. Juliana

Juliana Siegler (visiting www.astro.com)
Bad Soden, Deutschland --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:21 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Dear Liz:

My sincere and heart felt thanks goes out to all of the people at Astrodienst. On September 11, I along with all of America was in a state of shock. When I open your site which I visit regularly, I was so touch by your compassionate comments on this horrible tragedy.

I am looking forward in viewing the astrological picture of this tragedy. We need no many answers to our many questions at this sad time. It would be good to try and understand what the heavens are saying here. Again I THANK all of the kind people at Astrodienst.

Diana (visiting www.astro.com)
, U.S.A. --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 02:48 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Dear Liz,

Thank you very much for your and Astrodienst heart felt words of sorrow, for the tradegy that we all are feeling and are so very much shocked by. I look forward to the astrological picture of what happened on September 11, 2001. Some things that I noted dealing with the numbers of the day or the 11th day, Airline #11, and the WTC had (sadly had) 110 stories. I would also like to know if this year, being the true beginning of the 21st century, has a significance in this event. I pray that as a nation we learn from this. I pray that we understand that this event has affected and continues to affect all of us, regardless of race, creed or color and the reprecussions will be felt by all of us for a long time to come. The healing of this nation can begin on many, many levels, if we can get past our egos, attachments and ancient perceived ideations,that have torn this country apart. Prejudice is an ugly this for anybody to live with. I pray that we take this as an opportunity to look at how we treat each others as neighbors, friends, business associates, customers, consumers, and family. Black, White, Brown, Red, and Yellow have all felt this tradedy. What values do we hold that could have allowed such an disease as four commerical (ours) airplanes to be used against us like this? I pray that we look at ourselves as one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all and actualize those words in all of our actions.

Nia Keeling [ b.abdulhakimworldnet.att.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Cincinnati, USA --- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 01:34 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you sincerely, Liz, for your kind words about this incomprehensible event. There is such a stange feeling in mine and I'm sure other new Yorkers' hearts and minds it is very comforting to feel the support of the entire world and those personalities, like yourself, who I have looked to for guidance in the past. Please write more when you have a chance. 3

Max Black [ maxBlacktek.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
New York City, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 23:19 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts for America after the horrendous events of yesterday. We all appreciate your solidarity.

Karen Nielsen [ kandidaya.yale.edu ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Philadelphia, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 22:39 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Just wanted to say thanks to the Mountain Astrologer Magazine and Rob Hand in particular
for his article on the Saturn opp. Pluto. If anyone can get a hold of the Aug./Sept issue, or check out the Mountain Astrologer website, you
will be amazed at the pictures he chooses to use,
even having the glyph of Pluto on a skycraper!
What other force could do something so catastrophic! Thank you to the Astrodienst for the space to talk Astrology during this very
difficult time for the entire world.

Jill Goldvarg [ jillgoldvarghotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Seattle, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 20:39 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Nur ein Zeichen meines Entsetzens, der Lähmung und
meiner Trauer.
Danke für die Anteilnahme bei Astro.

Elfi [ private ] (visiting )
HN, Germany --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 20:24 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS RE:U.S. ASSAULT(NEW YORK AND WASHINGTON) HAVING WORKED WITH CARROLL RIGHTER, I THINK HE WOULD HAVE APPROVED OF INTERNATIONAL SUPPORT FROM ALL QUARTERS OF THE ASTROLOGICAL COMMUNITY. THE UNITED STATES IS MADE OF THE TRUE GRIT OF MANY NATIONS AND WE ARE NOT LIKELY TO BOW TO ANY AD HOC TERRORISTS...ANYTIME IN MY LIFETIME. THANKS AGAIN

Olracmilehi [ Olracmilehiaol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Denver, Co --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 20:15 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Dear Liz and all at Astrodienst,

I can't tell you how moving it was to open this site and read your kind and compassionate comments.

God bless you and all of us during these dark hours and always-xoxoxoxo

Marion Breland (visiting www.astro.com)
, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 19:42 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Dear Liz,
Your comments are greatly appreciated at this horrific time. The memory of staring directly at the Towers while the 2nd plane exploded into a huge fireball will always be with me. As a Gemini, I have always looked to your site for detailed astrological information, now my mercurial mind will be very keen to hear what information the heavens were giving us on the grim day of September 11.

Brad Kronen [ brad611aol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
NYC, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 19:40 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



The indescribable hatred behind the act which led to the veritable catastrophy we all unbelievingly witnessed yesterday live on TV, was, unfortunately very easy to foresee, if one had read the horoscope of the United States, and had been able to warn the authorities before hand. The transit and progressed charts, as well as the Primary directions, clearly showed an event such as we all suffered.
My thoughts and prayers go to those souls who left this world without preparation.

Vania de Souza [ vania_de_souzahotmail.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Lisbon, Portugal --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 18:52 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Dear Liz,
Thank you so much for your kind wishes. Our hearts are broken,,,,broken,,,,broken,,,so very sad,,,,our beautiful city in ruins,,,,But the confidence that good will prevail over evil comforts us and strengthens our spirits. Thank you to all who live in the light of good. Joan

Joan [ joanska88aol.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
New York, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 16:32 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you Liz Greene and Astrodienst for your compassionate comments for all Americans in light of recent events. As an American, and more importantly, as a citizen of the planet, I appreicate your heartfelt concern. I can't help but long for astrological analysis on events of 11 September 2001 and look forward to what your site will produce.

Thank you.

Nadine Turner
California, USA

Nadine Turner [ i_nadineyahoo.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Los Angeles, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 16:26 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thanks for your words of condolence and support. What happened yesterday in NY is the worst trajedy most in the U.S. have ever lived (or not lived) through. It's a nightmare and shatters your entire sense of security/safety. It seems so cowardly to kill innocent people. God help all of us.

Leslie (visiting www.astro.com)
, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 15:51 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



To Liz Greene and all those at astrodienst,
Thank you for your message of love and support for those of us whose home is the USA. It is indeed a crime against civilization, and an astrological perspective of the collective would be most welcome and helpful.
Thanks
Rebecca

Rebecca Pratt [ Rebeccaagentr.com ] (visiting www.astro.com)
Lititz, PA, USA --- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 14:52 Universal Time (UT/GMT)



Thank you so much for your outpouring of sympathy and support. In the hours, days and weeks ahead all of us will need the continued support of those around us to get through this disaster. Living not far to the east of NYC it is such a shock to no longer see the Twin Towers mark the skyline...I fortunately know of no one personally lost in the disaster, but many of my friends have lost or are mi