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Astro-Databank: Swami Beyondananda
« on: 29.07.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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Swami Beyondananda, born 9 October 1946 at 6:10 PM in Brooklyn NY
 
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I love Swami's humor because it helps us see the shadow side of our deepest beliefs. These beliefs that are supposed to be enlightening become encumbering if we don't integrate the shadow side. If you poke at someone's belief system, they will get defensive. Swami never crosses that line. He always invites you to laugh with, not at. There is always deep compassion in his humor.  
So what kind of guy makes this stuff up?
  • Where is the leavening agent in his chart? This guy is no Don Rickles. How is he able to poke fun, yet never be offensive?  
  • What makes a comedian? Some attributes - An ability to turn the world upside down and see things in new ways, an ability to touch the live areas where we are vulnerable, and ability to connect things that would not ordinarily connected. What is the AstroSignature for a comedian and how is it expressed in Swami Beyondanada's chart. Compare his chart to the chart of Robin Williams at for more insights into the essence of comedy.
  • Why would he choose spirituality as the center of his humor?
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« Reply #1 - on: 30.07.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Stephen Baxter
 
Praise be Swami has arrived. Wait 'til I tell Hal Aluya he's Suchananda!
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« Reply #2 - on: 30.07.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Southern Cross
 
Saturn is the AstroSignature for comedians, since timing and the ability to control audience response are the keys to humor. While the most talented comedians often have a strong Aquarian component(Jack Benny´s Sun and Bob Hope´s angular Saturn), Leo showmanship has brought recognition to Swami Beyondananda´s career. The Leo Saturn square to Scorpio Ju-Me shows his verbal(Mercury) sharp edge(Scorpio) using religious values(Jupiter).
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« Reply #3 - on: 01.08.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Rob
 
Philosophical disposition I have found evidenced in aries/taurus being one of the focii of a chart.
Where there is also a focus at Libra or Sagitarius the philosophy tends toward consideration of the plight of the individual(Aries/Taurus consideration tends toward consideration of society).
Gemini/sagitarius seems associated with comicality. I reckon a strong or focal Uranus likely in the chart of a comic.
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« Reply #4 - on: 04.08.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Stephen Baxter
 
Aspects of Mercury to either Neptune or Jupiter are very common in witty people. The addition of Mars to Mercury/Jupiter sharpens the capacity considerably. The square of angular Mercury to Neptune in Bob Dylan's chart brought him cryptic and haunting lyrics, but many friends and concert-goers remark at what an accomplished joker he is. Many of his early songs are hilarious, and many of his most beautiful songs have a thread of sly humor woven in.
Sun/Neptune aspects and pictures with the MC or Ascendant can produce wacky or zany characters.
Ironically, Saturn is strong in the charts of many comedians. That reminds me of the quote, "Dying is easy; comedy is hard.".
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« Reply #5 - on: 04.08.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Jane Griscti
 
1. Where is the leavening agent in his chart? This guy is no Don Rickles. How is he able to poke fun, yet never be offensive?
Mercury and Jupiter partile conjunct indicates a great(Jupiter) and fluent talker(Mercury). In Scorpio the talk would involve hidden meanings or motivations. In opposition to the Asc he's apt to see these hidden jokes everywhere, in himself, his work, in others.  
Other people may not take offense simply because they don't 'get' his hidden meanings; it's quite possible he's laughing up his sleeve.
2. What makes a comedian? ...[deleted stuff]...What is the AstroSignature for a comedian and how is it expressed in Swami Beyondanada's chart. Compare his chart to the chart of Robin Williams at for more insights into the essence of comedy.
I'm not fully convinced there are AstroSignatures. Each chart has to be viewed as a whole to determine how the planets are working in the life. Having said that, I'd expect Venus, planet of mirth and playfulness to be involved somehow.
Williams chart has Venus well dignified in the 10th sextile the Asc, Mars,the Asc ruler, and Uranus (conjunct Mars). Venus marks his life and sense of humour while Uranus adds some quirkiness. And Mercury's antiscia at 7 Taurus trines Venus at 10 Virgo.
Beyondanada has Venus' antiscia at 3 Aquarius square the Mercury/Jupiter conjunction.
3. Why would he choose spirituality as the center of his humor?
Jupiter, planet of religion and ruling the 9th House of religion conjunct Mercury. He likes to talk about religion.
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« Reply #6 - on: 16.08.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Stephen Baxter
 
It is very important not miss the T-square in Robin William's chart, since his chart has relatively few close major aspects. The T-square has at least four planets involved with the South Node. The core of the T-square is Mars/Pluto/Jupiter. This suggests a very successful and effective person. It is frequently found in millionaires and those who organize on a grand scale. Add to that Mercury, and we have the Mars/Mercury/Jupiter combo seen in Beyondanda. Bob Hope has a T-square too that, like Williams, contains a Mercury/Pluto conjunction square Jupiter. Pluto added to a signature often implies an attempt at mastery.
In my opinion, the Jupiter/Pluto squares in the charts of Williams and Hope represent the striving for great wealth, but Mercury is added to it in both cases yielding a witty Mercury/Jupiter combo. Signatures would be a wiser tact to naming a "planet of mirth", since there are relatively few planets and hundreds and hundreds of signatures. If there is a planet of mirth, it is either Jupiter of Mercury. I know of least one famous astrologer who associates mirth with Mercury but not Venus.
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« Reply #7 - on: 17.08.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Stephen Baxter
 
Martin Seymour-Smith is recognized as a leading expert on English literature, but he is also a famous astrologer. A great effort has been made to make his distinguished textbook, _The New Astrologer_, accessable, and he has, not surprisingly, more to say on the topic of humor than most other astrologers. His observations are as superbly keen as you might expect from a literature expert.
His astrological primer addresses the meaning of individual planets and also their combinations in all possible pairings. He assigns no particular planet to mirth or humor but suggests that Jupiter has "jollity", Saturn is cynical, "the enormous joke of death", and "Mercury has no emotion, except that if finds great amusement in teasing, in being sceptical, in being slight or flippant..". He also says, "The Saturnine cynic can on occasions be both wise and witty, and the traditional sadness of the clown or 'funny man' is usually Saturnine".
I you search for humor among his planetary pair meanings, you will find , Mercury/Venus "bawdy", Mercury/Jupiter "witty", Mercury/Saturn "humorous in a disconcerting way", Mercury/Uranus "bizarre humor", Mercury/Neptune "joker", Jupiter/Venus "merry", Sun/Saturn "cynical; cruel joker", Sun/Neptune "slightly, but harmlessly mad", Mars/Saturn "harsh joker", and Mars/Jupiter "often lovable".
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re: Swami Beyondananda
« Reply #8 - on: 14.10.2003 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Stephen Baxter
 
When I made my comments below about Robin Williams' chart it was based on the birthdata I had at my fingertips. I used it automatically, but I should have been more careful. It is different from the data published by Astrodatabank. My data comes from two almanacs. TIME Almanac, 1999 and The World Almanac, 2002 give Williams' birthday as 7/21/1952 and his birthplace as Chicago, IL. Sorry for the confusion.
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